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Uncirculated 1972 LMC Never Seen This Before

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this coin is the most pronounced out of the roll but I think there's like two other coins that have the same effect going on just not as pronounced as this one. and the devices are'nt smeared from like movement in the Press. I tried to get a better picture to show that but couldn't seem to get the picture I was looking for. They're straight up & down they're just like 3 times the average height of a normal device. its mainly just the #'s 7&2 but #9 has a little bit happening in the upper portion. none of the other devices really show this same thing happening but they are a little taller more pronounced then your average coin.


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 Posted 12/10/2020  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Close ups are too close. Looks like MD.
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I agree with john1
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Yeah that is push doubling, happens when the die is loose and pushes the devices, like a smear.
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Hoping Dr. coop will confirm.
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okay once again the devices are not smeared they are raised aprox. 3× the average device
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i got you a picture looking straight down at the date so you can see they are not smeared they are just raised. the numbers in the date get taller going from left to right starting with the #9. speaking of the #9 whats going on where my red arrows are pointing or is it just shadow trickery?



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The affected areas, I call these striation lines. It is Machine Doubling that shows metal movement after the strike. Not a premium.
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Okay I've seen dozens of pictures on wexler's list that have the same lines
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They may have the same lines, but they are not part of the variety. These are coin damage that was altered after the strike. Also on Variety Vista, check the description box at the upper part of the page. Only the devices mentioned on those areas, are the variety. The rest of the images are there for possible die scratch markers on the normal devices.
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There is def push doubling going on. That being said, it looks like the reverse has some minor doubling. Also, just because there is push doubling doesn't mean it didnt occur on a legitimate doubled die to begin with. You can have MD( Mechanical Doubling and all the variations of it) occur on an actual doubled die coin. No one who sees your pics on here can be 100% sure without the coin in hand. I also see what looks like split serifs on the date which isn't explained by the shift doubling. Not that the doubling is extreme but it's legit doubling. Atleast that's my opinion.
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playing with the new phone & took these pics to kinda show how vertical the edges are. a little better then I tried to describe last time I think.


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If you trust Mike Diamond,PM him.
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