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Weimar Germany 1923 200 Mark--Dramatic Doubling

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 Posted 12/09/2008  3:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
With the collector's permission, I'm posting photos of this very dramatic doubled die from the Weimar Republic.
As he describes this coin best, I'm including his words too--thanks Ken!

I'm not even sure if this is technically a coin. It was minted during the hyper inflation that occurred in Germany from 1921 to 1923 and was pretty much worthless the day it was minted.
It is the size of a quarter, as thin as a dime, and made out of aluminum. It is of worse quality than a 'Chuck-E-Cheese' token.
There may be a million of these floating around, but it was a great doubled die and I just had to add it to my foreign DV collection.


Weimar-Germany-1923-200-Mark--Dramatic-Doubling

The left side has the least amount of spread and it gets stronger moving clock-wise around the coin.


Weimar-Germany-1923-200-Mark--Dramatic-Doubling

The spread is heavier at 12:00 o'clock. Note the split in the bird beak.


Weimar-Germany-1923-200-Mark--Dramatic-Doubling


The spread on the right is just plain wild. To add to the confusion, it appears to have mechanical/strike doubling in addition to being a true hub doubled die.
(I was fooled at first and thought this was a tripled die—KurtS)

Weimar-Germany-1923-200-Mark--Dramatic-Doubling

The bottom is back to showing less of a spread.
Note the notch in the star and the the doubled claw tips.


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 Posted 12/09/2008  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1gtsfan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
that is a nice coin...is there a such thing as a tripled die?
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he found a great coin! I want one too.

For an example of a tripled die, check out this German 1939 2 RM, found by the same collector.
There are three clearly separated ends to the "n" in Hindenburg:

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 Posted 12/09/2008  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add russellhome to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one - also a Nazi era 2 Reichsmark - was hubbed more than 3 times. Looks like five or six to me. Each one is only slighly off from the prior one. But they add up to a pretty nice DDR!
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These are FABULOUS examples! As an error buff I love seeing true freaks =)
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Ken,
That 1938 2RM is amazing....I have to wonder what happened there?
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 Posted 12/09/2008  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zaggy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
KurtS, I'm guessing you're friend is a German Collector?

As for German minting in the 1920's to 1940's, depending upon the die and depth of the relief (deeper relief requiring more presses into the hub), 5-6 presses is not uncommon... These days things seem to be limited to one or two presses into the hub. But yeah, you'll find doubling on quite a few 2/5RM's; however, I've only ever really noticed it on the Hindenburg mit Hakenkruez (1936-1939 2/5RM) issues; not that I look really hard for this kind of stuff... Cant say I've ever noticed it on the Luther's, Schiller's, either of the Potsdam issues or the Hindenburg ohne Hakenkruez...

Kurt, if you buddy is into German Error's or Type's, let me know... It would be interesting to throw a few questions his way :)


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- and German coins seem to have more than an even share of good varieties.


You bring up a good point. I noticed that relatively strong Mechanical Doubling can be found quite readily on German coins (though I've yet to find a true DD amongst my coins). This is also true for Mexican, Scandinavian, Spanish, and many Central and South American nations as well.
I wonder what exactly the reason is?
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