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Edited by KauaiHawaiiGuy
12/23/2020 2:14 pm
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i am not knowledgible enough to respond to your question...
but I am interested in the experts answers...
very nice/informative photos...
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Paying $43 for a 1894-O in AU condition? That's too good to be true.
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Paying $43 for a 1894-O in AU condition? That's too good to be true. But it is true, Actually except for the defect .... whatever it is, the coin is better than the original pictures in the ad showed. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1894-O-mor...047675.l2557 |
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What's the weight, size and magnetism? And if it is a solid silver coin, how can it peel off like a tin can as shown in the photos? On the reverse, the "O" in "ONE" is also too round and thin. On the obverse, the number of dentils starting below the "1" and ending below the "8" is 4. In a genuine coin this number should be 3.5.  Edited by NumisEd
12/23/2020 3:14 pm
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What's the weight, size and magnetism?
And if it is a solid silver coin, how can it peel off like a tin can as shown in the photos?
On the reverse, the "O" in "ONE" is also too round and thin. It's real enough. I've been doing this awhile and know a fake from a real Morgan. It weighs 26.75, the "O" was just the lighting, it's not magnetic, it's the right thickness and size and passes the sound (ring test). And that's why I can't figure out what's going on with this Morgan.   |
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On the obverse, the number of dentils starting below the "1" and ending below the "8" is 4. In a genuine coin this number should be 3.5. And that doesn't seem to be exactly accurate. I'm no expert on dentils, but here's another NGC certified MS-64 listed at $11,075., and that "1" actually starts between two dentils instead of over one. So it appears that there are variations as to the dentil spacing. Anyway, I am pretty expert on Fake Morgans I have about 8 I always use to compare, and this is a genuine 1894 Morgan. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1894-O-NGC...AOSwl8VcyKio |
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it appears that there are variations as to the dentil spacing. There were 10 obverse dies used for the 1894 O and the dates for each of these dies were done by hand engraving. The denticles spacing did not change. The date position moved from die to die. I been looking on the VAM site for a perfect match for the date position on the OP coin and I have not found one yet, but there were not photos for all the different VAMs. |
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I'll say AU50 as far as grade goes. As for the rim issue, I have no clue. A peculiar lamination issue perhaps  |
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And if it is a solid silver coin, how can it peel off like a tin can as shown in the photos? Being solid silver does not prevent the planchet from having defects. No metal alloys are perfect; all have defects of some size or number. Sometimes coins virtually split in half. Do a search of "clamshell" here on CCF to see some extreme examples. |
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Here is a photo of a genuine 1894 O with the same date position as the OP coin. I believe the OP coins is genuine.  |
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Delamination or not, the most important question is: are you HAPPY with the coin, KauaiHawaiiGuy?
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12/24/2020 4:27 pm
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Delamination or not, the most important question is: are you HAPPY with the coin, KauaiHawaiiGuy? Oh, sure I'm happy with an AU 94 O for 43 bucks, but I was hoping that somebody might answer another of my questions, like does the delamination make the 94 O worth less, more, or the same. Is it an error that people want or avoid. Well, maybe someone will. |
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Coins can straight grade with a planchet flaw, but often planchet flaws or delamination will decrease the value of a straight graded coin.
I am not sure if the issues on the coin were caused by a planchet flaw or post mint damage. My guess if you sent the coin into PCGS or NGC for grading, it would come back Details damaged because they will take the conservative side.
I like the look of the coin and you made an very nice purchase.
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