Red Vs. Brown Cents And Cost Difference.

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cownick Pillar of the Community Canada 677 Posts	Posted 12/27/2020 3:48 pm I have researched what people have to say about red vs. brown cents but don't know what the price difference is. I see full red is full trends or auction but most are only 50 percent red. Dose that mean it is half price? Any thoughts? Report this Post to the Staff

sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 12/27/2020 4:21 pm The market will pay more for what it most asks for. Full red MS bronze coins in most cases are scarcer than RD/BN or BN, so that full red often attracts the higher price, especially so for bronze coins that are many decades, rather than years old. With bronze coins, some prefer toning, some prefer them as if they have just emerged from the coining press. I strongly think that the latter are in the ascendency; they are probably driven by the fact that even attractive toning is really just a form of corrosion, and that is despite the fact that nice even toning enhances eye appeal. The best way to determine the actual relative pricing RD vs BN, is to do comparative price research. I am most motivated to do that when I am considering an actual coin that I may buy. Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9864 Posts	Posted 12/27/2020 4:35 pm Quote: I see full red is full trends Not true. "trends" is a copyright price list published bi-weekly by Canadian Coin News and full trends prices listed are for 70-85% Red. At the top of their list is the header; "Red Premiums: Completely original and: 90% Red add 10-20%; 95% Red, add 20-50%; 100% Full Red, add 50-100%" "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Edited by DBM 12/27/2020 4:36 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Smallcentguy Pillar of the Community Canada 1984 Posts	Posted 12/27/2020 4:36 pm There is a large difference between ICCS and PCGS red copper. PCGS requires coins to be virtually fully red. In PCGS registry sets, full red scores a premium versus red/brown. So for scarce date coins, there is a very large premium attached to coins that are capable of making it into a PCGS red holder (which does not include most George ICCS red coins). Some older dates are easy to get full red (like say 1939) while others are extremely hard to get full red (like say 1944 & 1921-1927). A 1944 in full red is likely worth 3-5x what a red brown would sell for. You can see what an RB will go for in the current TCNC auction. There is a 1944 PCGS MS65RB with a starting bid of $750. A 1944 in full PCGS red would pull in $3000-4000 without much trouble I would say. Edited by Smallcentguy 12/27/2020 4:37 pm Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 12/27/2020 4:43 pm Problem with Full Red is that they need protection in an airtight capsule to keep them that way. Capsules may not fit into your display / storage strategy. For this reason, it may be better to go for RD/BN, or even BN in the same condition, but at a lower price. Report this Post to the Staff
cownick Pillar of the Community Canada 677 Posts	Posted 12/27/2020 5:49 pm Thank for the help so far guy's. I've been collecting for over 20 years and looking towards the future and changing my objective is to lean towards the 1 cent in higher end state. I would be selling off some to buy another in hopes that the collection will be in a much better state than what is now. Report this Post to the Staff
samsnate Pillar of the Community Canada 1723 Posts	Posted 12/27/2020 7:19 pm My large cent and small cent collection vary from BN-RD. For my individual tastes the older the coin the more BN I'm ok with it being. However the detail in the coins remains close to the same throughout the entire collection. As long as I get the sharp edges and clean busts I'm usually ok with that. I also find that the premium requested for an older RD coin is, IMHO, ridiculous. I would much rather get 3 BN coins in AU condition than pay for a full RD MS condition. The only exception I may have would be for super high value/scarce coin. But even a mid grade of those kind of coins is out of my financial reach so I would never have to have a struggle with myself if I should go BN or RD. Report this Post to the Staff
samsnate Pillar of the Community Canada 1723 Posts	Posted 12/27/2020 7:28 pm Also on a side note when it comes to toning, although they are fun to look at sometimes I'm one of the ones that would take a lower grade rather than having a toned coin if I were presented with just the two options. Report this Post to the Staff
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