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This has been a pretty active forum, so I'm hoping some good folks can help me. While going through some foreign coins I've had for years and cataloging them, I came across this 1959 One Cent that has no mint mark. From all references I've seen, this coin was only minted at KN (Kings Norton) and H (Heaton's). There are other years around it with no mint mark, and my research seems to imply that Pinches mint did the engraving and/or the minting for those coins. Can anyone confirm that or provide me with info on this coin explaining why I'm not finding a reference to it or point me in the right direction. The pictures aren't the greatest, but you can verify there is not mint mark above the "C" in Cents Thanks!   Edited by ic91sxf
12/28/2020 12:03 am
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Can you post full coin pics out of the holder?  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Hope these images are better. And thanks for the welcome! Long time browser; first time poster.   Edited by ic91sxf
12/28/2020 11:11 pm
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Yes, it looks like there's some funny business going on in the area between the E and C. It could be a grease strike as the dude said that is mostly obscuring the mintmark. I do see something in the area where it's supposed to be, but can't make it out. I have no idea if a mule would be a possibility.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Thanks, Dude and Spruett...appreciate your insights. The lack of lip formation at the bottom of the hole likely indicates insufficient strike due to grease in that area to allow the mint mark impression. I should have recognized that. While researching, I don't recall any mention of mules in the years around this coin. I'll chalk this one up to wishful thinking! Ha!
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I actually have another idea of why... typically on holed coins here is a collar in the hole, sometimes this breaks and/or is missing, causing the metal to flow towards the middle instead of into the device, this is possible with your coin. The diameter of the hole would be VERY slightly smaller. Just a theory.
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It seems that the hole is slightly bigger.. As you can see on mine one cent 1959 KN the letters are close to the edge.  |
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Thanks, Sander. Your pic is a great comparison for me. I also looked more closely after Dude's comments too and it does appear the hole is slightly out of round.
So, do you pros agree a collar break for the hole could/would likely lead to that hole being non-circular and perhaps not allow enough strike pressure at the mint mark sight for no sign of the mink mark to be left?
Thanks, all!
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I have a hard time understanding how the hole could be out of round coming from the mint.
And I think a strike through would have more loss of detail than this if it were sufficient to wipe out the mint mark.
Perhaps a very well done intentional alteration? Clearly there is more "wear" in this part of the coin than in the part toward the crown.
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01/02/2021 10:53 pm
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 Very interesting, and it proves my assumption wrong  . However, I think that in this case, the hole is centered, but is suspiciously 5% longer in the N-S axis than the E-W axis,with an uneven wear pattern around the hole (again, there is no rim , so I still think we must consider the possibility that the coin has been altered. |
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