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1865 NFLD 20c - Thoughts On This?

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I would be curious to hear people's estimate of the grade on this coin. I think I have a sense of where most of the regulars fall on the ICCS/NGC/PCGS spectrum but it might be helpful if you indicated whose grading philosophy you're going with.

Thanks and happy New Year everyone!

1865-NFLD-20c---Thoughts-On-This?
1865-NFLD-20c---Thoughts-On-This?
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 Posted 01/02/2021  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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it might be helpful if you indicated whose grading philosophy you're going with.
Please say you're just kidding.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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XF-40 cleaned and I have no philosophy. I just see too much wear on the hair/buns to be AU and it's been roughly cleaned.
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@DBM - why kidding? They're all pretty different no?
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there is only one grade. The amount of wear combined with strike quality. Anything else is smoke and mirrors. IMO. VF 30
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From a down south point of view (USA)...EF45 cleaned.

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Looks EF-40 to me
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 Posted 01/02/2021  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It all depends on the resolution. Of the pic and whether the definition produced is solid. The obverse here would probably benefit from an in-hand inspection. VF-30 minimum.
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I would have said VF35 from a Canadian perspective. :)

And yes, Canadian mid-grade grading is significantly harder on the grade than US grading. I wouldn't be surprised to see PCGS grade it XF40 or 45. IMHO it was a valid request.

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IMO, this coin would push at EF40 with every other TPG but stays at a nicely attributed VF-30 with ICCS due to the circulation marks and not perfect strike.

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All the same, I don't necessarily always agree with ICCS grading and would mark EF-40 on the holder if this were in my collection.

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