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A US Coin. Philippine Is. 50 Cents, 1944-S, 2 Different Size MM . Help

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 Posted 01/15/2021  7:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add yontan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Going through my stash of BU P.I. coins, I discovered 2 1944-S 50 cent coins, each with a different size mintmark. Neither one is misshapen. I know the mint made changes to the S mm in 1942 on some coins, but can find no info on changes to these coins. please look at the pictures and let me know what you think. Thanks.
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 Posted 01/15/2021  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@yon, perhaps slightly different S-punches were used to create the mintmarks? I'm not seeing anything specific about this on numista, although I do note that there are two types for the '44-S relating to the Mahon Volcano. Here is a link to that information:

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces15858.html
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 Posted 01/15/2021  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kloccwork419 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im sure they had several different MM styles. Just like our coins
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 Posted 01/15/2021  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a Type 1 and Type 2
Has to do with volcano details and where it touches the denticles.

Doh! Spence mentions it too.
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 Posted 01/15/2021  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yontan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate the info about type I and II. But the info I need is concerning the mintmarks. The coins were produced at the San Francisco mint, and are responsible for the mintmark used. If you look at the two separate mm you can easily see the difference. I just could not find any readily available info. Thanks to all of you for what you provided. Bill.
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 Posted 01/15/2021  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very minor die variety caused by different mm's. No extra value for equal grades.
These coins very nice, with good luster.
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 Posted 01/16/2021  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yontan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had quite a time finding my post. Apparently it was moved because it is a world coin. For me and all my collector friends, Philippine coins produced between 1903 and 1945 are considered U.S. coins because the Philippine Islands were a United States Territory from 1903 until 1946. Well, at least I found it.
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 Posted 01/16/2021  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yontan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
p.s. The " Red Book", A Guide to United States coins, has sections for all Territorial coins. You will find the Philippine section between the pages 1366 to 1395. Also, American coin prices can be significantly altered by a change in mintmark size or style, as evidenced by the 1981-S proof half dollar. type 1 S mm is $7.00, while type 2 S mm is $225.00. Hence my interest in a different mintmark.
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