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We Hate Those Modern Colorized Coins, But...

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...the ancient Romans had them as well!

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(And yes, this is real. It is being auctioned at the upcoming Gemini V Auction for Ancient Coins)
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 Posted 12/13/2008  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fascinating!
It reminds me of this gilded silver Greco-Bactrian artifact I saw just yesterday:

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Ceremonial plaque depicting Cybele, 200 BCE from Ai Khanum (Afghanistan).

If you have any chance at all to see the traveling exhibit of the Bactrian horde from Afghanistan, by all means do it--it was incredible!!.
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 Posted 12/13/2008  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That must have been done recently, the coin is so worn if it were original it would have worn off surely.
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That must have been done recently, the coin is so worn if it were original it would have worn off surely.


Nope, this was done by the Romans.

Unless the top ancient coin dealers in the country Harlan J. Berk and Freeman/Sear are auctioning a modern replica for $7000 at one of the largest ancient coin auctions of the year.
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 Posted 12/13/2008  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Figman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like gold inlay and not painted, however would need it in hand to determine.
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Of course, there may be several alternative scenarios, such as...
Coin was circulated, then gilded, inlaid, or tooled--in ancient Roman times.
In that scenario, documentation/provenance plays a critical role.
If it was unearthed at an undisturbed Roman site, that's pretty conclusive (imo).
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 Posted 12/13/2008  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add roots to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow great historical coins!
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Fascinating!

I have never really had much interest in ancinets, mostly because I feel they would require a lot of studying before purchase. However, I was amazed at what I saw when I visited the Getty Villa last year.
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I have never really had much interest in ancinets, mostly because I feel they would require a lot of studying before purchase.




But at the same time, if I was ever in a B&M store and noticed some in decent condition that were affordable I would have a hard time not buying them. As a history buff, nothing sounds cooler then holding an ancient roman coin, but again not knowing much anything about them and having enough relatively 'modern' coins to learn about means the ancients are going to have to wait a while until I decide to really dig into them. Oh well, they have survived for this many years, I suppose they can wait a bit longer...
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Difficult to say everyone hates those painted coins. They are selling you know. Even at coin shows they sell. It appears that those TV sales of those are doing well or they wouldn't continue making them.
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I always wondered if some of those companies could sell a gold plated cow pie and get people to buy them. Probably could. A fool and his money...
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It appears that those TV sales of those are doing well or they wouldn't continue making them.
I agree. It is just like spam e-mail; it will stop when everyone ignores it.
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Coin collectors that join coin forums are usually on the more serious side of coin collecting. They purchase books on them, go to coin shows, talk to people about them, etc. Most do not want coins that are cleaned, have holes drilled in them, plated, painted.
HOWEVER, I go to breakfast occationally with a bunch of elderly people, like me, and if and when such items come up, as a general rule, they would all buy a painted coin. Others I have talked to say the same. At a coin show some dealers will carry those since there are many people that want something pretty, not valuable.
Remember all those Cents with the additional items stamped on them? Sold great. Put a plated 1943 Steel Cent or a normal one on a table and watch which one sells first.
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if and when such items come up, as a general rule, they would all buy a painted coin. Others I have talked to say the same.
Who are these people--got a list? That's like the Glengarry leads*, and I have a crate of 24K colorized sets to offload--you'd get your cut too.

*Totally joking of course. I'm so opposite all that.
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