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How many hubbings were there for the 1992-D ? Take a look there is an obvious difference in the spacing on these two coins , I don't have a Close AM 92-D to compare but I understand that it would look the same as the post 93 cents ? If what I'm seeing is right then there are actually more like three separate spacings for this coin . a wide mid and close, Is this correct ?  |
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I've been fooled by a reverse like your top photo before, on a 92-D of all coins--my heart skipped a beat.  I seem to recall hearing that polishing the dies can affect spacing of the AM--and perhaps depth of die hubbings too? Yep--the 92 Close AM reverse is identical to the '93. |
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Since there are so few of these (both the 92 and the 92d) is there any speculation that these might have been some sort of transitional patterns thast were subsequently put into circulation? Odd that dies would be prepared to create such a small number of these. Is there any publication anywhere or any source of information regarding how these might have come to be?
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Odd that dies would be prepared to create such a small number of these. Is there any publication anywhere or any source of information regarding how these might have come to be? Senario: It's late 1992 and Philadelphia mint is still making cent dies for the 1992 coinage, but they are also making and stockpiling dies for the 1993 coinage so they will be able to chang over with no delay on Jan 2nd. The 1992 dies are using the Wide AM reverse bu the 1993's will be the Close AM reverse. Somehow a mistake happens and a 1993 reverse die is sent to the work floor in Philadelphia and one was also sent to Denver as well. (At that time Philadelphia made all of the dies for all of the mints.) Since the differences are very slight the pressman didn't notice them right away. |
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I've noticed that too Metalman, they are both common. That mid AM one always makes me look twice but I'm getting used to it now.
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Same here- get all excited thinking maybe this is the one, and then when you put it under magnification  NOT! |
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lol I just found one and it was a 92p that was like the top photo and I thought I found one. without magnification it looked like it was touching but it was a little gap in between
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12/15/2008 5:32 pm
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Im not fooled by the coin , and I'm not rrying to make a Close AM out of it . to me it would be a mid spaced AM coin meaning that there are three seperate reverses for the date . |
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I'm going to make space in my binder tonight! Wide, Mid and Close!
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i am going to keep mine also.. I was definitely fooled by mine but did not attempt to get excited until I knew for sure... It is a good thing
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Yup, my heart skipped a few beats too at these until I look at it with a magnifier. Thanks for posting thread this Metalman.
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When you look at the Close AM Cents 1993 forward business strikes (93 Proof Close AM) the appear to spell AM ERICA. The wide ones make it appear as AMERICA. Which I see on the two coins above. I don't think there is a mid one. Just wide and Close AM's. |
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 The M in AMERICA is centered in both examples above, despite apparent spacing differences. |
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Look at my response in this thread: https://goccf.com/t/39165It's the same basic question, and I would give the same answer here, only for the opposite design. Basic story goes like this: There are only two designs in question. not more. Coins that look like a 'mix' or a 'transitional' in between the two are just the more common one with some die or hubbing issues. |
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Chuck that was my original question , is the difference a hubbing difference ? and if so is it a new hub or is it the same hub which has seen some modification for "reasons unknown to me" slightly altering it and the Wide AM dies which produces the Wide AM cents ? to be honest I see a difference in the east leg of the M which I think accounts for the spacing difference . but how is that possible from the same hub ? |
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I think these coins deserve a little more investigation , If one of you guys with access to the Philly 1992 lincoln cents could take a look and see if this anomoly occurs on them also I would appreciate it .
I have so few of the P mint coins that to get a good result is not possible from here in the west .
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Posted 12/15/2008 03:21 am
