1830 Large Cent Large Letters Possible N-9?

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Phantasm1970 New Member United States 37 Posts	Posted 02/02/2021 04:44 am Hi! I've collected merchant trade tokens for over 35 years, but am rather new to coin collecting-- just started going through my grandpa's coin collection. This one really stuck out as I was browsing through the cents. I do not have the proper books on variations and such, but after researching all over the web, I am thinking this is a variation known as N-9? Just trying to learn, so any help, suggestions, input would be appreciated. This would maybe grade as a G-4? Thank you for your time! Report this Post to the Staff

smat45 Pillar of the Community United States 2334 Posts	Posted 02/02/2021 05:50 am I'm not sure of the variations of these (N-9) or such. I think you're right on with the grade...the reverse rim keeps her from VG-08...decent details on the ear and hair. But this coin would probably get a Details (corrosion) tag as well because of the corrosion spot above her head. So G details would be the grade. Sounds like your Grandpa had a cool collection. Look forward to some of the other cool coins. Nice pics btw! smat Report this Post to the Staff
Tanman2001 Pillar of the Community United States 4399 Posts	Posted 02/02/2021 09:00 am Based on the positioning of the date and lettering, as well as the obverse die crack, the die pitting(?) behind the ear, and the repunched E in LIBERTY I think this is N-2. https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...ers-bn/36940 Looking at PCGS images, it seems like N-2 and N-9 have the same reverse die, so you were half right! One of the PCGS images of N-9 only has a die crack that goes from the tip of the bust to the rim, your coin does not have that crack but has other obverse cracks, so that immediately eliminates N-9 as a possibility. Edited by Tanman2001 02/02/2021 09:07 am Report this Post to the Staff
Zurie Pillar of the Community United States 5668 Posts	Posted 02/02/2021 09:03 am Agree with N-2. I'd say it grades G-06, and I'm not sure if that might be a planchet defect above the head. Report this Post to the Staff
joecoin Pillar of the Community United States 789 Posts	Posted 02/02/2021 09:16 am Quote: Agree with N-2. I'd say it grades G-06, and I'm not sure if that might be a planchet defect above the head. Kinda looks like a counter stamp? Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 02/02/2021 10:04 am G-04 sounds right. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 02/02/2021 2:11 pm Sorry not N-9. There other folks are correct, this is N-2. It does have the right rev for N-9, that rev was used for N-2, 5,and 9. N-9 doesn't have that die crack through the top of the date and stars though, N-2 does. Also N-9 has the 0 noticeably high and the left edge of the curl much further right than it is on N-2 or N-5. For some reason it is't linking the images so I posted the links as well N-2 Middle die stage http://64.60.141.195/photos/59jpegs/158660.jpg N-5 Middle die stage http://64.60.141.195/photos/59jpegs/158673.jpg N-9 Early die stage not the high 0 and how much further right the curl is compared to 2 and 5. http://64.60.141.195/photos/59jpegs/158679.jpg Edited by Conder101 02/02/2021 2:15 pm Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188213 Posts	Posted 02/02/2021 4:43 pm to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Phantasm1970 New Member United States 37 Posts	Posted 02/03/2021 12:47 am Quote: I'm not sure of the variations of these (N-9) or such. I think you're right on with the grade...the reverse rim keeps her from VG-08...decent details on the ear and hair. But this coin would probably get a Details (corrosion) tag as well because of the corrosion spot above her head. So G details would be the grade. Sounds like your Grandpa had a cool collection. Look forward to some of the other cool coins. Nice pics btw! Thanks! This is one cool collection for sure. It will probably take me 6 months or more just to get through the cents! :) I'll definitely post more photos of interesting coins when I run across them. Report this Post to the Staff
Phantasm1970 New Member United States 37 Posts	Posted 02/03/2021 01:01 am I sure appreciate the warm welcome and ALL of the excellent pointers and information everyone gave to me! Thank you for taking the time to share photos and links, comparison photos work so well for me. As to the damage/pitting/defect/corrosion/counterstamp issue near the top-- I have examined the coin under a microscope and a 30x glass, but still cannot make out what the issue is. Parts of the coin seem to be intact within the 'damage', but it does not look like a counterstamp (I LOVE counterstamps) unless it is the worst counterstamp I have ever seen. I tried to take a few close-ups, but I just cannot seem to get the lighting right. But here are a few photos of the 'damage' (PMD?). Report this Post to the Staff
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