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Does This 1888 Morgan Dollar Look Like The Last 8 Is An Upside Down 8?

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 Posted 02/04/2021  12:00 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ilzho to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello:
I always appreciate you all answering my beginner questions.

Does this last '8' look like an upside down 8? or is this the margarita talking, lol.....

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 Posted 02/04/2021  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Huh, it absolutely does look like that.
Nothing is screaming "fake" to me, but given that this would certainly be hot stuff on VAMWorld (http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c.../1888-O_VAMs) if it were real, that seems likely to me. The obverse rim looks off, but that could just be due to the minor MAD.
Interesting coin. I'd like to hear from more knowledgeable people than myself.

That looks so much like an upside-down 8 that I'm willing to rule out damage.
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 Posted 02/04/2021  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilzho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I hope it's not fake, these came from my grandfather and I'm 50 and had these for 40+ years.... lol.....
That last 8 sits higher and looks like it is upside down, but can't find any info on it.....If you need additional photos let me know.
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 Posted 02/04/2021  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks upside down to me as well. Have you measured the eights and compared top to bottom widths?
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 Posted 02/04/2021  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilzho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My mm gauge is too big to give proper measurements. Mine is more for stones and jewelry. The openings in the 8's are different shapes as well. The top open is different than the bottom one.
Maybe there were made like this?
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 Posted 02/04/2021  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilzho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some better photos if it helps....

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If you compare the last 8 with those on some genuine 1888-O Morgan dollars, it looks perfectly normal.
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 Posted 02/04/2021  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilzho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's good to know.... then the follow-up question is..... why did they flip the last 8?
I doubt it's known, but still interesting to me.

Thanks.
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 Posted 02/05/2021  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dates were punched in by hand until 1909 (maybe 1910? Correct me if I'm wrong), and if I remember correctly, the first three digits were included in a single punch and the last digit was done separately. I'd guess that the punches weren't well marked and mint employees could easily hold them upside-down.

Check out PCGS's MS67 example (https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin/1888-o-1/7184). It looks like it has the same issue.
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Your right it does a little bit I"ll have to look at mine now.Have you also noticed that the 1888's even in high grades seem to have flattened feathers on most of them.I guess it was the dies they were using.
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