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Personal Memories Of D-Day (1971)

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I was in junior school but was still unhappy about the change to decimal currency 50 years ago today! No more pennies or threepenny bits - I had finally lost my chance to get a 1951 penny or a 1946 or 1949 threepence in change!

But it was quite exciting finally to see the new coins in circulation, although I was familiar with the designs - my parents had given me a set of Britain's First Decimal Coins, distributed through banks in sticky blue vinyl wallets. What was strange was that all the coins in circulation were suddenly very shiny! It didn't last long...

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I was disappointed not to get any of the UK's new decimal stamps on D-Day. The UK was halfway through a long postal strike at the time, and I didn't get a first day cover of the new definitive stamps until much later.

I was shocked when the price of my favourite item of confectionery, the Mars Bar, changed overnight from 8d to 4p: equal to 9.6d. Inflation was beginning to bite in the early 1970s, but there is no doubt that some manufacturers took advantage of the changeover to increase their prices. A second-class postage stamp cost 4d in January 1971: when post offices reopened after the strike, the cost had jumped to two-and-a-half pence (6d), a hike of 50%!

Surprisingly, one quite major item of expenditure dropped in price. Local telephone calls from payphones had cost 6d, but went down to 2p (equivalent to 4.8d). Despite rampant inflation, they remained at this rate for a decade.

In 1969 a major campaign, "Save Our Sixpence", had been launched by a national newspaper, with car bumper stickers, petitions to 10 Downing Street and letters to Members of Parliament. The sixpence was a highly popular coin and was much used in vending machines, and there was widespread fear that, once it was withdrawn, many prices would increase to one shilling (5p). The Government relented and decided to reprieve the sixpence. In the event, the sixpence disappeared almost as quickly as the old penny and threepenny bit, and by the end of 1971 it was quite unusual to get one in change. Surprisingly they were not demonetised until 1980...
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In July 1971 I remember going on a car journey with my parents that took us through the Dartford Toll Tunnel. For many years, the toll for cars passing through the tunnel had been set at two shillings and sixpence. With Decimalisation, this became twelve-and-a-half new pence. Huge queues built up at the toll booths as motorists waited for change: unless they happened to have an old sixpence, a toll that could have been paid with a single halfcrown now required at least three coins! My Dad had only a 10p piece and an old threepence. I had three old pennies, and gave them to him so that he had the right money for the toll. That is the last time I remember spending old pennies - they were withdrawn from circulation the following month.
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Immediately after Decimalisation, everyone called our new coins "new pence", but this soon became abbreviated to "P" and this usage has continued ever since, bewildering some overseas visitors who can't understand why we call our coins peas!
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A very strange anomaly of Decimalisation was the change in the status of Maundy Money. It was declared that the designs of the four Maundy coins were to remain unchanged, but that the coins would be redenominated in New Pence, and furthermore that all previous Maundy coins dating back to 1817 would be re-valued from 1d, 2d, 3d and 4d to 1p, 2p, 3p and 4p! This also meant that any pre-1927 silver threepence (indistinguishable from a Maundy 3d in circulated condition) was now legal tender again, and for 2.4 times its original value: the silver threepence had disappeared from circulation in the 1940s and was considered a collector's item.
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A friend of mine actually managed to spend a silver threepence in a local village shop, and a fellow collector friend's mother actually got two in change, although this was possibly because the shopkeeper knew her son collected coins!
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Silver coins still circulated to some extent in the UK in 1971. Pre-1920 92.5% coins were virtually extinct, but shillings and florins dating from 1920-1946 could still be found relatively easily. They would not die out completely until the original large 5p and 10p coins and the old shillings and florins were replaced by smaller coins in the early 1990s.
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Good background info - thanks!
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I vividly remember decimalisation day - I gave up my school lunch break to work in the tuck shop most days. My pay for this task had always been 6D, but on D-Day I persuaded Brother Jerome to let me have 3 1/2 new pence so I could have one each of the new coins!
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Really interesting read, thank you for posting. This may have cleared up a question I have about half pennys too. Well, in a nut shell, would 1970 or 1971 be the last minted date of the Elizabeth * ll * DEI * Gratia * Regina * F:D: half penny? I'm just interested to find out if I'm missing 2 or missing 3 coins for my 1938 - 197X folder. (My Whitman folder was printed in 1961 so from 1959 on there are only holes with no dates printed under them.) Thanks!
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The last circulation halfpenny was 1967. There is a 1970 halfpenny, which was issued on the "Last of the £SD set", in the early 70s. There are no later halfpennies of the old style after 1970.
The new Half penny, usually called a "Half P" in the UK, was issued from 1971 to 1984. Only the last year is scarce as it was again set-only. These are tiny scraps of bronze.
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@PaddyB Thank you very much for the information, you got me right back on track. I just found the 1970 on ebay and that leaves only one coin for me to get. :-) Cheers
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Nickels_rule - I assume you know already that there are no British halfpennies dated 1961!

PaddyB - well done to get a full set of the new bronze coins on D-Day!
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I was going to ask which one you are missing? If it is 1961, you already complete - if not, none of the others should prove a challenge.
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Nickels_rule - I assume you know already that there are no British halfpennies dated 1961!


No...I did not know there were no 1961 British halfpennies........that would explain why I can't find one though eh? Looks like my Whitman 9680 folder is complete...thanks for the info!
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I had already become an avid collector by the time the first decimal coin was issued in 1968, I was so taken with the change in uk currency that I vowed to collect an example of every circulating decimal coin and 53 years on I'm still collecting them.
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Brings back a few memories for me.
I was working in the UK for a couple of years at the time of the decimal changeover.
A bit like a second time around for me at the time - Australia went through a similar decimal changeover in 1966.

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I do have one very interesting 1967 Penny from this time.
It is fully struck up but thin - only 2/3 rds of the normal weight.

It was to me explained to me by a specialist UK coin dealer many years later,
that it is a deliberate error made in protest by Mint employees, when the minting facilities were moved from London to Llanstrssant in Wales at the time of the decimal changeover. Deliberate gross error coins were then thrown by the handful over the exterior wall of the Mint to passers by in the streets outside, thus escaping detection and avoiding prosecution.

The reason for the protest is that a large number (probably most) of the Mint employees did not wish to move out of London to Wales.
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Deliberate gross error coins were then thrown by the handful over the exterior wall of the Mint to passers by in the streets outside, thus escaping detection and avoiding prosecution

I'd never heard that before, but it would explain why there seem to be so many mis-strikes dated 1967. I'd always put it down to the very high mintages that year and the rush to get all the new decimal coins out, but deliberate mischief by mint employees certainly makes sense.
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I remember the change, too, but from this side of the pond. When I went to the UK in 1973 I remembering asking a local about the new coinage since I did not quite know what to do with a pocketful of new and old currency. A local lady told me not to worry, "We don't know what to do either!"

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"We don't know what to do, either ! "
That is the sort of good humoured answer to a visiting American that I would have expected.
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I recall being on a course with IBM in 1990, so 19 years after decimalisation. There was a German gentleman in the queue for the coffee machine in front of me, cursing and swearing at the machine for not accepting his money. When I stepped in to help I found he had a handful of pre-decimalisation coins that he had saved from his last visit to the UK!
Of course I exchanged them for new money at a fair rate. Sadly nothing exciting in his batch, but a memorable experience.
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Great memories NumisRob, I was way too young to be around.

Also Ireland switched to decimal currency that day as well.

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Irish low values all dated 1971 showing mythical birds

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Irish 5 and 50p coins similar to Britain


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Irish promotional wallet from 1970, as in the UK they released the 5p, 10p and 50p early and withdrew all the old coins.
Farthings and Halfcrowns were withdrawn well ahead of the others.

Irish coinage until 1976 was minted at The Royal Mint and was the same size and shape as British coins.
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