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1900 IHC Oddity / Expertise, If You Please?

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Backstory: A few days past, in my post, I mentioned Ed's collection, a complete IHC album I purchased in the late '70's. Mind in absentia, guided by Ed, I put the finishing touches to it by adding the few missing keys.

@suipakpaikungfu asked me to post up the whole thing on CCF. I hadn't visited Ed's collection in a while. @suipakpaikungfu reawakened my erstwhile plan to explore the five oddities Ed placed in five unlabeled slots at bottom of the last page.

The oddities are dated 1862, 1872, 1879, 1900, and 1908. I'll post one coin at a time in hope that - having lost both beloved Ed and Ed's wisdom to the march of time - I might recover insight from experts on CCF. I posted 1862, 1872 and 1879 earlier; 1900 is appended to this post; 1908 will follow in a separate post.

My 1900 question is: what might have befallen this coin? I am clueless!

I continue to appreciate the learning I'm collecting. Thank you!

Kevin

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 Posted 02/17/2021  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't know the cause, but looks PMD.
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 Posted 02/17/2021  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree PMD, but that's curious for sure.
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smacked with a hammer a few times on the heads side by someone?
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Must be something like that, but I'd expect to see more damage to the reverse.
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It's a shame y'all (Drat! I have no claim to that Southern jargon!) cannot see the coin at proper size and expression. I dared not speak my mind, but now I'll dare. This was not done to the coin. My mind sayeth this had to be done to the die. Mayhaps this "coin" was not born in a U.S. mint. Experise anywhere?

My quest for explanation goes on!


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Maybe a plastic hammer. Pretty much damage from what I can see. It didn't seem to affect the reverse much though.
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If the devices are being "smacked" with a hammer why is the rim not showing signs of that?
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With that design, it looks pretty flattened to me:
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C'mon, lets compare circulated to circulated. Saying smashed letters but not smashed rims..............as you see the rims look like this circulated coin and obviously the letters don't

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What is the diameter?

A " Texas Cent"? http://goccf.com/t/216119
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You can see the flattening on the Bow tie and ONE CENT on reverse.It is a hammered coin as mentioned and YES it can be done with a Rubber hammer without damaging the Rim,although the obverse Rim does show flattening as well.Even if it was not hammered,something was done to the coin after it left the mint,it was not minted that way originally.
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Quote:
Mayhaps this "coin" was not born in a U.S. mint

Why would a basic, very common 1900 IHC be counterfeited? What's it's weight?

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The cent suffers from damage after it left the mint. It wasn't the die that did this if it were there would be a few thousand of them.
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Now a 1877 & 1909-S I could see as a counterfeited coins.
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The bigger question is: how did the stands of all the obverse letters elongate at the top like that, without obvious damage to them (scraping, etc.)?
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