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1944-P Lincoln Wheat Cent, Error Or Damage?

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i have been re-examining coins from saved jars collected over the years. I have been inspired in part by all of the variations and errors discussed here. here is a coin that doesn't appear to be damages, but the rim completely disappears from about the 4 in 44 to under Lincolns chest (4 o'clock - 6 o'clock). the revers has similar missing rim, and the top of the E in the ONE - almost fades out. is this wear. damage, or a minting error, and if an error, does this add any value to this coin. thanks.

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Most of this appears to be just extreme wear. The missing rim just might be a straight clip. Lets see what other opinions tell.
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i thought of excessive wear, also, but wouldn't wear occur more or less evenly across the coin?
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Is the thickness of this Lincoln consistent across the coin, or does it taper towards the end with the missing rim?
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Almost 65 years, a lot can happen in that amount of time.
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the thickness narrows at the missing rim, tappering on both sides, about the same amount.
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Hmmm...judging from the relief in the lower bust and ONE on the reverse, it looks like there was a lack of metal to properly strike up details. I'm going to wait to hear what the experts say, but I suspect this cent was struck this way on perhaps a straight clip or tapered planchet
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I'm going to bump this one to the top because it looks more interesting than damage.
I hope others will give some insight here.
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Looks like a lamination on the reverse near the 'N' and maybe Grease Filled Die on some of the letters.
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Kurt:

Hope this helps. Here are pics of a 1945 that I posted back in Sept- Both Chuck & Bill
felt this 1945 was a tapered planchet. Any similarities to the 1944 posted above?

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I think the first coin is damaged from circulation that's all the second coin is a partial clip and some Grease Filled Die and the bottom left looks like a circulation damage a hit
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Any similarities to the 1944 posted above?
Helpful pics! I hope Chuck and Bill drop by to comment on the '44. To my eyes, I notice a similar weakness in struck details localized around that one edge.
Whether that's simply wear or struck that way I don't know for sure.
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as far as the rim goes, it appears to be post mint damage.
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It's a minor straight clip with perhaps some tapering. It's the real deal. I'd give it a few dollars value.

This is not damage, not Grease Filled Dies, not lamination, and I'm not sure there is any such thing as a partial clip.
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I was under the same impression. Straight clip. Good find.
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The 44 has a slight "straight clip"

I'm not guessing on the 1945:-)

Thanks,
Bill
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