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Only an hour left......anybody check out the bar code? I have no idea how to do that.
EDIT: The cert # shows it previously sold on 10-27-2019 for 26$. Assuming this is the same coin in the holder and the holder isn't fake
Edited by Rothery
02/19/2021 6:32 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Definitely not a PCGS gradable product. No way to prove that the coin is a fake, without breaking out of the (fake?) slab, although it obviously appears to be a fake, and proports to be so, by declaring it to be Ni plated Cu, without actually declaring it to be fake. A neat way of escaping withdrawal from sale by ebay's very poor policing methods. Thus, it will most probably sell again.  Edited by sel_69l
02/19/2021 7:11 pm
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The listing clearly states that the serial number "may be different" from the one shown.
I'm not looking to slander myself, but guessing the slab is fake.
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Australia
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Before jumping to conclusion, there were official restrikes struck by China mint from 2019.
Therefore these are NOT counterfeits contrary to what many are thinking here.
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The barcode scan without problem.
These are medal restrikes without date.
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I am happy with that explanation, but I would also like to find out a bit more about it.
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Official imitations of a rare coin? Slabbed? Blech!  But, to quote one of my favorite authors, "Business is business, and business must grow." Remember, PCGS' parent company, Collectors Universe, is a publicly traded company. If the top line doesn't grow at PCGS, heads will roll. Edited by tdziemia
02/20/2021 08:31 am
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Read carefully again tdziemia. They are NOT imitations. They are officially released by China Mint and not some basement counterfeiters.
If medals can be slabbed, I cannot see why these cannot be slabbed.
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I would never trust a seller from China for any numismatic item for obvious reasons. They (china) have tarnished their reputation by allowing nefarious activities.  |
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Read carefully again tdziemia. I did read the thread, and I understand what these are. My understanding is that this medal imitates the design of a rare Chinese coin. Maybe I stand guilty of imprecise language in how I conveyed that. And the rest is my opinion. Slabbing something worth 20 bucks seems like a waste of money. But if there is demand for slabbed, modern base metal medals, then someone will step in to supply that demand. And I agree with your logic that if other medals are slabbed, why not this. I sure won't be lining up to buy one  Edited by tdziemia
02/20/2021 09:12 am
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It's still a replica coin, thus not allowed on ebay even if PCGS certified. Show your financial support of the Coin Community Family (click here)See my topic on Mexican Numismatic Medals (click here) |
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I think this goes to @gx's point, that it is technically a medallic representation of a specific coin type, i.e. there are enough differences (no date, etc) to differentiate it from a replica.  Edited by tdziemia
02/20/2021 10:04 am
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It's not a surprise that threads like this would just annoy Chinese. Zero attempts to understand why restrikes as such are made and just brush them off as cheap stuff.
If anything, I'm more puzzled over how Dan Carr gets away with his replicas even though it's not an official mint product.
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...to understand why restrikes as such are made... Can you say a few words on that, so we can learn more (@sel also asked to learn a bit more upthread)? Edited by tdziemia
02/20/2021 1:02 pm
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@gxseries - let them annoy, there is something very wrong with this, as the product can be so easily misrepresented. In fact, I would find it disturbing if this thread is truly considered 'annoying,' as western collectors generally took issue with the 'retro-proof' strikes being certified by TPGs... if the Chinese wish to degrade the TPGs as they have their coin market, that is another issue entirely, and one which merits further discussion (peraps by shareholders). My point here is that shisty restrikes that can be easily misinterpreted by newcomers should not be touched by the TPGs, whether they be 1950s KEVIIIs, Retro-proofs or whatever the heck this is. China, I am sorry to say, represents a great disservice to the hobby these days, and this does not help.
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02/20/2021 5:12 pm
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