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Got this one Augustus, 27 BC-14 AD. AE Dupondius. Struck under Tiberius. Obv: Radiate head of Divus Augustus left. Rev: Round temple flanked by calf and lamb standing on columns. RIC I (Tiberius) 74. But some people say it's fake, some people say it's not fake. Would be very excited if I get a real answer xD.   |
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The easiest way to tell is if there is a line along the edge but fakes have been getting better so ask the real pro (not me) also  to the coin website of Awsomeness Edited by Akkdayam
03/09/2021 7:43 pm
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Also can we have a picture of the rim ple ASE |
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Hi; As a coin dealer I pull a lot of fake coins out of estates as it is part of the job and the photo below is of a few from the black box of fakes we all keep to help us recognize coins that are not real. Your coin is sadly quite fake sorry. Notice how it looks like the two I am holding of examples of this type of forgery.  |
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United States
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Two legit coins of similar type, from Lanz and Jean Elsen, respectively.  The OP coin with two from the fake reports, for comparison:  |
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Ukraine
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I think I need real facts about it, because some people said it's a casting, but we found out it's not. I didn't say it's legit and don't say it's fake, but I need to know how to check real or not
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Danny;
Whatever anyone's feeling is perception is everything. Your coin makes quite a few persons think it is not real and a few that it is real. So if you try to sell it at some point you have to face the audience and they will decide the price. You can of course as you say get "real facts" about it from NGC and if they accepted it and graded it no one would question realistically the decision. But you spend $30 for the experience and if they don't think it is real you are out money to NGC. So you are left with a coin the potential persons who would buy the coin are questioning and even if you wanted to keep it in your possession, you will always hear people say they think it might not be real and this will be some an issue for you. So if for example 3 other people on this board said they thought it was real you'd feel better about it, but know it does raise red flags for others. I had a Julius Caesar recently many on this board did not think was real but I did to a certain degree of certainty. I sold it and David Sear said yes it was and my buyer was happy etc. So some David Sear or NGC can get you a set of real facts as you need to see. Until then you are in a grey area sadly.
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I didn't say it's legit and don't say it's fake, but I need to know how to check real or not The above makes me think there is a language misunderstanding. What you have is "real." It exists and you can touch and photograph it. It is not a figment of the imagination or something made by a software program on a computer. Whether it is a 2000 year old coin is your question.I've collected ancients for 8 years, coins for almost 50. Of all forums this is the best for ancients. The people here have experience handling tens of thousands of ancients, and every one of us has been burned by fakes. I suspect this coin is a modern sand casting due to the granularity of the surface particularly on the reverse. I also don't like the pitting on the obverse and the overall soapy appearance or softness of the strike. Finally, I am suspicious of round coins. Most people expect coins to be round, but this is a modern expectation based on the usage of mechanical presses to make coins. Ancient coins are usually oblong or offcenter because they are made by two people, one holding a die and the other striking it with a hammer. I personally would pass on this coin unless it came from a large, well-known seller of ancients such as CNG who guarantee what they sell. Others have provided known legitimate examples. If this isn't good enough for you, then I would recommend sending it for authentication. https://www.davidrsear.com/ is one of the experts of ancients, and I would start with him. Best of luck. Edited by jskirwin
03/10/2021 12:51 pm
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One thing stands out to me. I see the same irregularities around the ear and eye as in 1st known fake example in Bobs post.
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One of the best ways of identifying fake coins for yourself is to make a collection of them.
It is essential however, to make sure that they are always acquired at a nominal very low price - a price that is so low the the faker is discouraged from producing them.
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