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Need Help In Date Identification. LWC 194(?) Something.

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Hi all. I'm hoping there are better eyes and brains out there who will help me try to identify this LWC. I found it in an old high school collection of a friend with all his steel pennies. I noticed it because of all the lamination issues and when I weighed it, turns out it is 3.1 grams. As you can see, there is some copper around the rim.

I'm probably spending way too much time on this coin, but it's got me curious. I've done several overlays in photoshop to try and line up dates with 1925, 1943, 1944, 1935, but cannot make a determination. Perhaps it's even a 1950 something.

But the color is exactly that of a worn steel penny.

The L & I are barely visible in "Liberty" but I do not have the photographic equipment or a coin microscope to show it well. I have a few more pictures if this isn't adequate.

Any thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
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Looks like it was painted at one time. Now the paint is wearing off the coin and the copper is showing on the tallest devices and rim area. Just a Wheat cent now.
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Thanks for the reply Coop - but I am a professional artist and there is no sign of paint on this coin. I dipped it in Acetone as well as Distilled Water. Absolutely no paint.
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I know what your coin feels like...,

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1945 is my guess and electrolytically (artificially) plated to make it look like steel?
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How long did it spend its time in the company of 'all the steel coins'? Is it possible that over the years, that some of the zinc dust could have migrated over to this copper standout?
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Thanks to all so far. I have some comments b ut I am running late for work!

Will reply when I get home tonight.

Also have another interesting LMC to post. Looking forward to reading more!

Thanks!
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Is it possible that over the years, that some of the zinc dust could have migrated over to this copper standout?

Not like this. Whatever it is, I'd put money on it being intentional.
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I dipped it in Acetone

Leave it in acetone for 24 hours
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Hi all. This coin was with a lot of others in one of two Whitman Coin Books my work associated has had since high school. My guess is he is about 60 years old. The coins were all in the little round cut-outs more or less by date order, but it seemed that everywhere he didn;t have a correct date he had put a steel penny. He had about a dozen of them over the two books. AS for migration of Zinc, I doubt it, but who knows. The coin is absolutely the color of steel/zinc coinage with the exception of the copper you see in the pictures.

In person, all that area smudged in front of Lincoln's face and elsewhere looks like worn down lamination errors. As for the "feel" of the coin, it's smooth as silk to the touch overall. I will try the 24 hour acetone treatment and see what happens, but I honestly believe it's just an odd planchet or something. That being said, it is just too "damaged" to be very valuable. 3.1 grams, non-magnetic but looks like steel. Strange.

Any other thoughts and ideas are appreciated. I look forward to posting more and reading the Forum.
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