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Edited by QuarterHoarder72
03/15/2021 9:22 pm
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It looks good to me. Nice find! Tough to tell the later the die state gets but TRUST makes me lean towards it being correct. Good eye!
Edit: also with the mint Mark position so low for this variety I think that's a good marker too. You could do a side by side for the MM position to be for sure but it looks good to me.
-CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
Edited by CoinHunter27
03/15/2021 10:15 pm
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Great grade for the die condition. But all I'm seeing is die wear. http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...1DDDO001.htmCoppercoins shows somewhat similar as your coin, but we need a close up of the date and mintmark area to know more is this is that die, or not. http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds As they mentioned: Quote:
An unusual die that in later die states, shows some distortion and extra thickness on all outer devices. However, notching and separation lines could not be found on the specimen examined. An earlier die state and a finer example will show a spread and these separation lines. But a closer view of the mintmark would help. Added: Just check PCGS and it looks like the normal devices looked thinner then. So it maybe a match, but lets check the mintmark location. Then we will know for sure. Edited by coop
03/15/2021 10:28 pm
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Thanks for the input CH27, I'm quite happy with this purchase. Here's the photo of the date you asked for coop, I'm pretty sure it lines up nicely:  LOM, thanks for the link! The coppercoins markers confirm it as well. DDO-001 it is.   Edited by QuarterHoarder72
03/15/2021 10:33 pm
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Thanks for the image, but the marker is all I need to see. But if there wasn't any marker that matched, then The mintmark location could have saved your bacon on that die. (some markers are only temporary. But the markers between devices and near devices last a lot longer than the ones out of the open fields. When you see a marker inside a device, these last even longer then. But when searching for markers, remember to look close to the devices. They last longer there.
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Thanks for the help coop! Glad to have your assistance on this one.
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Wow, that's a tough call. If DDO-001 then both the obverse and reverse dies have been polished with new die scratches. That happens, so not an excluding factor. The reverse die chips look pretty spot on, although the marker below the S seems a slightly different shape (would be wild coincidence to have markers in all three spots and not be that reverse). TRUST looks pretty thick and much like it, but the vertical bars of WE seem a bit on the thin side. One thing I note about that die is when I look at it with a loupe the left side of the U in TRUST seems just a little thicker than the right side. But that is very subjective.
I'd say that one might just bee too tough to call from photos of any quality, and you will be the best judge of it in hand.
It's a rare die, and I've looked at hundreds of BU coins from that year under the scope that look a bit too thick in the TRUST that weren't it, so again, I think this will be up to you to make the final call. If you find a marker that seems like it would have been on the coin before the obverse die was polished, post it and I can pull mine and see if we can find a match.
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@topicalbats, I appreciate the input. I can't find any markers on the obverse that might've survived, for the reverse maybe the die crack forming on the RI of PLURIBUS? I've matched the die markers to the ones in coppercoins database, and the example they have seems to be correct.
Edit: @tropicalbats, wouldn't the markers on coppercoins that match the markers on mine be confirmation? They match up perfectly, or is that a result of die polishing of some sort?
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03/15/2021 11:32 pm
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Pulled that one up. Yep, perfect match on the markers for 1DO-001. Interesting that even looking at that listed coin I am having trouble just saying yes that's DDO-001. But I trust CC to have gotten it right so it's a WIN!!! Those mid and late die stage coins from 1970 and 1971 are sure buggers to work with.
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Thanks for the confirmation TB! As always, I appreciate your expertise. Any chance you think this would be a top pop? There's no way to find out for sure, but based on what you've seen do you think it's a possibility?
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03/15/2021 11:50 pm
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I should think it would have to be top pop. ANACS is probably the only TPG that will slab such a thing and they have only slabbed one total coin and it was MS-64. Mine aren't slabbed but the better of the two would likely just creep in at MS65, or a solid 64. Been thinking about getting mine done by ANACS at some point as I am slowly working on getting the DDO-001 top coins slabbed and a bunch have to be done by ANACS. Also highly unlikely an MS67 ever comes up, so pretty much you get to keep the crown. Cake and ice cream all around! |
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Awesome! Thanks TB, you've been a tremendous help.
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