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1969 S Doubled Die And 1969 Doubled Die +machine Doubling?

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 Posted 03/26/2021  5:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MrBarlow0086 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm new to this so, don't scrutinize too harshly. I believe I may have found a true doubled and another doubled die with Machine Doubling as well. opinions?
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Thanks for your time and consideration. no hasty responses please, give your reasoning in detail as to what your opinion is and why, I'm here to learn not to argue.

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 Posted 03/26/2021  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF!

These don't look like the 1969-S Doubled Die. You wouldn't even need to magnify the coin to see it. Here's what it should look like.

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 Posted 03/26/2021  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrBarlow0086 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I said, please no hasty responses. It isn't "the" doubled die, there are more than a few and there's always possibility of a new variation being found.
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 Posted 03/26/2021  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrBarlow0086 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many resources are available, here's just one of them.
https://doubleddie.com/228401.html
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Coppercoins has a couple of others listed. But unlike Machine Doubling, you can see the doubled area rising above the fields/devices on them. On two different sides.
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to CCF

some extreme close up photos there. Sometimes too close is just as bad as too far away, it's hard to get a reference.
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Way too much magnification and too many photos, and one coin per thread, PLEASE. One overall photo of each side is all we need, along with text of where you see doubling, then show us that spot.

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and to CCF. I might be seeing minor MD and that's about it.
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I do not know why you like Adams, but gustus non disputandus.

You have a proof, and is nice. If you look in the catalogs you see a 1969 very rare and price coin in S mint but not in proof.

I agree with the others about the dissection's of your coin. COOP and Yokozuna give you all the tools for.
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 Posted 03/27/2021  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrBarlow0086 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't find google image search results helpful nor chastising my signature for its literary references. Which coin is supposed to be a proof? Ad hominem aside, these are uncirculated business strike, not proof. What I see rounded corners diagonal from each and extra material in areas, possibly wider than usual. Lincoln has a cleft palate, more than Machine Doubling. Machine Doubling can't go two directions at once and is possible with a doubled die as well. This is my first and last post, y'all feel smart and good about yourselves enough.
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Some have said "too many photos" but I got to say...Great photos...sharp and clear..
What are you using for taking them..?

to CCF...looking forward to seeing more of your great photography skills....good luck on future finds, have fun...[.......
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I usually take images showing the devices in a level position of each group of images:
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I often use side by sides to show how normal and a doubled die are visually seen as different.
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Sometimes I show just the doubled die, with the devices horizontal. If I need to see it larger, then it may not be Necessary to show the devices. (Enlarged to large is not going to help see it better. It is often just too minor to be seen. So to avoid that, I try to keep the devices wider to show the hub doubling.
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So to avoid putting too many images, I'm going to stop here.

CoopHome: Side by sides? Are they helpful?



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Not to rock the boat, but there are to many photos and most of them were not useful. To much glare and odd angles,to close. The OP said he is not coming back to CCF, I guess because he or she didn't get the answers they wanted to hear.
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