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1968-S Lincoln Proof, FS-101 DDO Or Machine Double?

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 Posted 03/29/2021  10:49 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sgtclough to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm reading, I'm watching , bit still having a tough time between Machine Doubling and true doubled die. Did my best with the pics but still in the proof set so my apologies for the glare and quality. Thanks to all in advance, I am learning alot in a short period of time thanks to this group.
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 Posted 03/29/2021  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnH4444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Variety vista is your friend here: http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...8SDDO005.htm
Think you can get more pictures of the in god we trust?
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 Posted 03/29/2021  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks flat and shelf-like so MD.
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I'm seeing a lot more deceptive looking MD recently, so wouldn't surprise me.
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 Posted 03/29/2021  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sgtclough to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some other pics of top of W E and T of WE Trust
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If they are all affected in the same direction, then it is probably MD. There also a hub issue on some of the motto issue. So it could be more than on issue. But if it is either/both there wouldn't be a premium for it.
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Sure looks like MD to me.



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Thanks for posting. I wonder, if both MD and hub issues, which one came first in the process? Does one cause the other, or are both completely separate processes?

I look forward to your further posts.

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looks like a good example of flat line proof MD, IMO.
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Note this thread on Wexler's site:
http://doubleddie.com/814639.html

Quote:

1968-P,D,S 1¢ WWHO-001 Doubled Working Hub
Description: A very slight CW spread shows on the LIBE of LIBERTY. A spread towards the rim shows on IGWT.
Die Markers: The obverse and reverse die markers will vary with each affected working die.
Submitted By: Various individuals.
Comments: Numerous working dies for all three Mints were created with this doubled working hub including S-Mint proof dies. (Bold added by coop)

Then note coppercoins showing this as a DDO:
http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=mds
Note all listing on V.V is showing the same issue and all their dies are from the same issues and being called doubled dies.
http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...O%201968.htm


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Thanks to all for the help and info.
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I'd say what you have is Machine Doubling. Keep reading here within CCF, you'll learn. Glad to have you aboard!

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Here are side by sides of the DDO-001 and a normal proof coins devices, so you can see the hub doubled areas for this die.
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