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A Gunsmith's Two Cent Piece .

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Joel B. Tubbs, 1813-76, was a gunsmith in Waterloo, NY. In 1842, he had a shop on the corner of Main & Clark Streets, selling guns and fishing tackle. During his life, Joel was quite active in civic affairs, serving in the fire department, as a town trustee and an election commissioner.

Joel planed off the obverse of the below pictured Two Cent Piece in order to create a unique, personal calling card. Many a mason or fraternal brother had one of these which typically served as a conversation starter. Joel's stamps, J.B.TUBBS / WATERLOO / N.Y. were also used to mark his firearms.

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Pictured below is a .36 calibre target rifle that bears Joel's stamp on the barrel ....

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Target shooting was quite a popular sport that often involved teams of shooters in one area, competing against teams from elsewhere. Large sums of money would change hands at these events. Here's a remarkably similar gunsmith counterstamp that belonged to Henry V. Perry, another western NY gunsmith and target shooter ....

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Getting back to Joel, he made the news in 1886, when he accidentally shot himself ....
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Joel survived the accident but died three years later ....
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 Posted 04/04/2021  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice backstories, well done.
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Very interesting. It must be an optical illusion, but the photo of the Tubbs coin makes it looks like the letters are raised, not incuse.
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I've wondered if these c/s'd coins might have been used to mark one's place in the shooting competition? Pieces like these tend to lend themselves to flights of fancy and speculation .... It seems the more I learn about a piece, it's owner and his life events, the more I'd like to know.
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 Posted 04/05/2021  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ExoGuy - I always enjoy seeing your coins and reading about their historical background.
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The favorable feedback is much appreciated, guys.

Counterstamps add a new dimension to coin collecting. As I have over 2,700 c/s'd coins in my collection, the vast majority being U.S. merchants, I've plenty of fodder for these posts. Of course, only a small percentage have intriguing backstories, I've found.
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Super cool, and I'd say that first one is an 1864 from the reverse die, not conclusive, but very likely.
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I have one of j.b. tubbs muzzleloader I bought another my wife's grandpa and uncle past away
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to the CCF, Southernboy .....

Can you post pics of the gun(s), particularly the stamping?
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Great Story - Thank you as I have interest in both hobbies
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