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The Most MS-60 Seated Dollar I've Ever Seen

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Normally a lot of low end Unc Seated dollars (60 & 61) are really just Unc Details Cleaned, and some are actually just rough Unc coins. This takes the word rough to a whole new level. This is probably the most beaten I've ever seen a silver dollar without it qualifying for a damaged comment. It's actually kind of cool in a way.

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I've seen many similar. There were actually bags of these (along with 1859-O) released during the Treasury raid of 1964.
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Most of the mangled Seated dollars that I have seen are New Orleans coins. These coins were handled like sacks of potatoes, stored in humid conditions, re-bagged when the canvas bags rotted, shipped from New Orleans to eastern FRBs, tossed around some more, and eventually dumped in the silver rush. What's not to love?

At least they still exist for collectors.
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That bag of dollars was shaken, not stirred. Unless the photo is overexposed, sure looks dipped to me.
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Doesn't even look accurately graded. I see enough obverse rub to call 58. But somehow I don't hate the thing. It's interesting in its way.
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Doesn't even look accurately graded. I see enough obverse rub to call 58.

IMO a grade of AU-58 would make the coin worth more than the MS-60 it received.
A grade of AU-58 is NOT necessarily one step down from an MS-60.
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This wasn't just in a bag of dollars, this was in a bag of knifes and sandpaper
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This wasn't just in a bag of dollars, this was in a bag of knifes and sandpaper
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I've seen many similar.


I've seen some really bad ones, but this is the worst I've seen. I'd honestly love to see a worse one.


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Most of the mangled Seated dollars that I have seen are New Orleans coins. These coins were handled like sacks of potatoes, stored in humid conditions, re-bagged when the canvas bags rotted, shipped from New Orleans to eastern FRBs, tossed around some more, and eventually dumped in the silver rush. What's not to love?


They certainly have character!


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IMO a grade of AU-58 would make the coin worth more than the MS-60 it received.


Strongly disagree. Most people who want an AU-58 want a clean, hit free AU-58. While this would, in terms of luster, likely be very choice, the marks would kill the coin and make it very hard to sell as an AU-58.
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Grape says it well. An AU-58 coin can indeed look much better than an MS-60, but by no means always.
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MS-60 coins are so hit or miss it seems, AU-58 or MS-61 is usually the better bet.
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I always heard that one of the 1860-O bags surfaced in Arkansas back in the mid-1960's. I've seen a few scattered higher grade 60-O's at shows in that area over the years and most were awfully baggy.

Dipping has killed a lot of these coins, too.
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