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I've been staring at the NFLD 50c for two years now and still can't easily distinguish one obverse from the other. The Charlton guide describes differences in the laurel wreath which I don't see for example. People talk about elements of the face; the lips....but they're pretty subtle. So, does anyone out there have a definitive way of distinguishing obverse 1 from 2? This is an 1898 small w - it's priced as though it's an obverse 1 (though still on the high side in my opinion) but, to me, it looks like an obverse 2.  |
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I too struggle with this. The lip, I think, is the best indicator but once wear comes in to play its too hard to tell the difference. The Charleton distinguishes them also with one having the upper most leaf entering the legend band but I have seen zero evidence of this. The truth here is that the differences are too small for collectors to readily and easily identify, so I don't think many people really even try to.
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Type 2
On a type 1, the upper lip juts out at a slight angle, on type 2, it is almost straight down.
Also the Laurel leaves on a type 1 enter the gap between the E and I,
on a type 2 the leaves fall short of the band.
Hope this makes sense.
Edited by JimmyD
04/15/2021 08:14 am
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@JimmyD - you wrote "On a type 1, the upper lip juts out at a slight angle, on type 1, it is almost straight down" - is that a typo?
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I think the eyelid crease is deeper in the type 2 - that's why I thought this one was type 2 and not type 1....
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@JimmyD - you wrote "On a type 1, the upper lip juts out at a slight angle, on type 1, it is almost straight down" - is that a typo? Yes it was Thanks, I corrected it |
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Subtle, yes, and on more worn specimens I don't think that they can be distinguished.
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Thanks folks - so the rule of thumb is that type #1 Queen is feeling a little kissy and amorous whereas type #2 Queen is not in the mood for that sort of nonsense....
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That's a good way of putting it. Now you can easily distinguish the two varieties.
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To me, it looks like a 2, but I'm just going by the Haxby and Charlton photos. In a #1, one of the laurel leaf tips ends between the E & I, like this coin. It looks like the tip of the leaf in question is worn down, but would be between the letters if not (look carefully and you'll see the shadow). It is definitely a small W by looking at the tip of the neck truncation and the W ... a large gap. But when you look at the upper lip, like this reference: http://www.saskatooncoinclub.ca/art...-50c-1898-1sthe lip is straight, not curved like a #1, so I think it's a #2. Edited by okiecoiner
04/15/2021 1:18 pm
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Thanks @okiecoiner - the jury's not entirely in on that laurel leaf between the I and the e thing. I don't see that particular feature, at least on the 1898 (and I have several of them in various degrees of decrepitude). My money's on the eyelid which appears to be a deeper and more resilient crease in the #2 and the lips, which are a little puckered up in the #1.....
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