| Author |
Replies: 10 / Views: 3,097 |
|
|
Valued Member
Canada
64 Posts |
Hi all, I am looking for some experts opinion/advice on the following coin. The specific coin in question is a Province of New Brunswick 1864 1 Cent, E over F variety. This coin has been graded by PCGS as "Cleaned". I would like to know how to determine that this coin has been cleaned? I do see some marks on the obverse, but I don't see any hairlines. Would the color be the main factor? Like I mentioned, the coin is in a PCGS holder and it is hard to get clean photographs.   Thank you
|
|
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Canada
1081 Posts |
With copper it's often about the colour rather than hairlines (though you can find both of course. There's a certain 'salmon' colour that's a dead giveaway with cleaned coins...even if it's only on part of the coin. It's hard to tell from that particular picture. There looks to be an intact 'halo' effect on the obverse which might mean that it's not cleaned. On the other hand, PCGS's reputation is that they are particularly good with copper. Doesn't mean they never make mistakes but they mostly know what to look for.
The E over F is a rare coin (I would say under-valued) so, as long as it's not hideous, it might not matter so much if it's been messed around with.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Canada
1923 Posts |
I've had a number of these and like mentioned a hard coin to find in higher grades. This one looks like it would have graded EF-AU also liked mentioned I don't think the clean comments would hurt the value a lot. Nice Coin
|
|
Valued Member
 Canada
64 Posts |
Thank you both for your comments. I agree that this variety is hard to find (especially in higher grades) and I am pleased with this coin even if it is cleaned. PCGS has graded this coin AU-details.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
666 Posts |
If it's in a Gold Shield holder there should be a True-View photo for it.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Canada
1505 Posts |
Am very surprised that PCGS is recognizing this variety. may of us have been chasing it. And, contrary to you guys grades, mine would be at the most VF 30 there is a lot of wear on the obv. but, would be happy to be wrong. Perhaps the op would post the PCGS #?or the slab?
|
|
Moderator
 Canada
10456 Posts |
PCGS has been certifying this type, called "Blundered Legend" for several years now. I know the owner of the top two graded coins, which were really cherry picks. This one, at MS-64RB, is the finest known. https://www.PCGS.com/valueview/mint...618772&h=pop
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
|
|
Pillar of the Community
Canada
1505 Posts |
SPP, I am a bit slow understandung here. are u saying that your link does show the OP's coin? Or is it just one of the top EF's u wished to show? If so, what happened to the fingerprints... MS64 full of prints? Just asking..
|
|
Valued Member
 Canada
64 Posts |
Please see below the TrueView photo 
|
|
Moderator
 Canada
10456 Posts |
Look at the colour of the open fields versus what you see protected in and around the legends. This coin was cleaned and retoned some time ago. Still, it's a desirable variety in that condition.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
|
|
Valued Member
 Canada
64 Posts |
Thank you for the information SPP.
|
| |
Replies: 10 / Views: 3,097 |
|