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1983-P Dime - DDR Or MD?

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 Posted 04/20/2021  12:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bogiesmokes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Sorry for the poor image quality of the entire coin - still trying different ways to compress the images I take from my phone versus the scope...thanks for looking!


1983-P-Dime---DDR-Or-MD?
1983-P-Dime---DDR-Or-MD?
1983-P-Dime---DDR-Or-MD?
1983-P-Dime---DDR-Or-MD?
1983-P-Dime---DDR-Or-MD?
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 Posted 04/20/2021  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice specimen there, it looks like MD to me, but then I'm still trying to learn to pick up on these types of errors.

So, with that said, the Experts are here somewhere and you may get your answer..
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 Posted 04/20/2021  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bogiesmokes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Same here, every time I think I'm starting to understand how to differentiate between MD and DD, I find a coin that's got me stumped...thanks for the reply!
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The close up images are perfect. But now for the bad news, that is Machine Doubling, not a doubled die.
1983-P-Dime---DDR-Or-MD?
1983-P-Dime---DDR-Or-MD?
1983-P-Dime---DDR-Or-MD?

The clues for Machine Doubling is this:
1. MD affects the outside edges of the devices.
2. The areas affected are flat, not rounded like the normal contour of devices.
3. The are flat looking shelf like.
4. The are very common. It is the machine that is affecting the coin. Even doubled dies can be affected by Machine Doubling. Why? Because as I mentioned, they are affected by the machine. So a normal die and a doubled die can show evidence of the type of after strike damage to the devices.
5. The affected areas that draw attention, are a reduction of the devices. On a doubled die, the devices are enlarged on the raised devices and reduced only on incuse devices. (Yes, on incuse devices, the rules are opposite. On the incuse devices, the devices are enlarged by Machine Doubling. Just opposite of raised devices.)

CoopHome: How it Machine Doubling seen on coins? Well the rules might surprise you?
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Thank you for the detailed response, Coop. You go above and beyond to help me (and others) understand the 'why' behind your assessments. I'll be studying your response, many thanks!
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