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Are They Real Morgan Dollars 1882 1885 CC?

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 Posted 04/30/2021  4:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jharkin531 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,
I recently purchased two Morgan dollars. Can anyone give me a quote on the condition of the coins and value. They look real to me but I know they are rare dates and marks so I'm being on the fence.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fake and Fake, and welcome..Hope you didn't pay too much. Hope you can get your money back..

Can I ask how much you paid for them?
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 Posted 04/30/2021  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the Community!

Your post was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wish that for educational purposes that responders would give a detailed analysis of their observations stating why they believe a particular coin is fake or not. Both of these coins are indeed key dates and a likely target for counterfeiters but I am still curious about the observations especially without any testing for weight, composition or magnetism. If these are fake, please tell us why so that we may learn to spot them easier.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


...and BEFORE you buy any coins, people will be happy to help telling you whether or not the coin(s) is/are fake or what the grade is.
I have seen too many posts where the "deed was done" and remorse came afterwards.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numisma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Sorry, they're both definitely fake. You really just need to look at a lot of real examples to get a feel for it.
Some observations:
The exposed metal has a flat, gray tone that isn't quite natural.
They have fake dark toning/circulation cameos around the devices. This is something that develops on genuine circulated coins, so it's added by Chinese counterfeiters to mimic wear and hide flaws. They haven't quite gotten it to match the real thing, though.
The rims are too narrow.
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Personally, I'd like to see close-ups of each coin, both sides, on separate threads for review. I respect Numisma's knowledge, but find these comments somewhat superficial.
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 Posted 04/30/2021  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matthew23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CC Morgan's are faked a lot I just bought a 83 cc but it was graded don't like buying these cc Morgan's unless they are graded to many fakes like these 2.
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Classic faked Chinese toning
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 Posted 05/01/2021  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jharkin531 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the reply's. I cancelled my order as they did not convince me that they were real. Thanks for all the advice
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 Posted 05/01/2021  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matthew23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's good that you can cancel it.
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would still like to know, where you were buying them from, and how much you were paying?
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 Posted 05/03/2021  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jonjrl1963 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also is pretty scarce/rare to see those 2 dates (espec 85cc) in anything but unc, or close.
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