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josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 05/08/2021 3:41 pm Good evening from Italy. I ask for your opinion on the possibility that this one cent represents exemplary with a dubbing error in the date reported in the catalogs. I wanted to know your thoughts. Report this Post to the Staff

merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 05/08/2021 3:48 pm Circulation flattening, possibly Machine Doubling. to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 05/08/2021 4:13 pm Must agree - circulation damage and a tad of Machine Doubling. to the CC Edited by Coinfrog 05/08/2021 4:14 pm Report this Post to the Staff
josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 05/08/2021 5:41 pm Ho trovato questa foto sul web,mi sembra come errore uguale alla mia moneta. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 98106 Posts	Posted 05/08/2021 5:59 pm Quote: Ho trovato questa foto sul web,mi sembra come errore uguale alla mia moneta. Translates to: I found this photo on the web, it seems to me like error equal to my coin. Quello che stai vedendo è il raddoppio della macchina. Il raddoppio che vedi nella foto che stai usando come riferimento non è una corrispondenza. Il raddoppio è sul lato sbagliato dei numeri nella data e nel segno di zecca. What I just wrote is: Quote: What you are seeing is the doubling of the machine. The doubling you see in the photo you are using as a reference is not a match. Doubling down is on the wrong side of the numbers in the date and mint mark. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Edited by Dearborn 05/08/2021 6:05 pm Report this Post to the Staff
josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 05/08/2021 6:33 pm Perfect thanks. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/08/2021 8:44 pm Or in redneck language: Quote: What you are seeing is the doubling of the machine. The doubling you see in the photo you are using as a reference is not a match. Doubling down is on the wrong side of the numbers in the date and mint mark. Redneck: Whut in tarnation yer seein' is th' doublin' of th' machine. Th' doublin' yo' see in th' photo yer usin' as a reference is not a match. Doublin' down is on th' wrong side of th' numbers in th' date an' mint mark. Shet mah mouth! Edited by coop 05/08/2021 8:44 pm Report this Post to the Staff
ijn1944 Bedrock of the Community United States 19241 Posts	Posted 05/08/2021 8:55 pm Must be a Saturday night... Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 98106 Posts	Posted 05/09/2021 10:17 am Quote: Redneck: Whut in tarnation yer seein' is th' doublin' of th' machine. Th' doublin' yo' see in th' photo yer usin' as a reference is not a match. Doublin' down is on th' wrong side of th' numbers in th' date an' mint mark. Shet mah mouth! LOL too funny.. Now we be tranlatin.. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
SamCoin Pillar of the Community United States 3237 Posts	Posted 05/09/2021 11:28 am No one seems to be pointing out (at least explicitly) that not only is this coin not a doubled die, but the reference photo you've posted is also just Machine Doubling. The fact that the doubling on this coin is not on the same side as the photo is irrelevant, since both are worthless Machine Doubling and not the real deal, which looks like this: https://images.PCGS.com/CoinFacts/2..._800x800.jpg Edited by SamCoin 05/09/2021 11:30 am Report this Post to the Staff
josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 05/09/2021 3:50 pm I agree with you, that the side does not matter, therefore machine error does not matter.Thanks. I find in the catalog several coins with identification INC.ABOVE, could you explain the meaning. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/09/2021 4:37 pm Well they information is not correct that is posted in printed form. It is just the opposite. The DDO-001 coins there maybe less than 50 of them. They noticed it after a few had been struck and got into the bins and didn't retrieve them. But even the DDOs examples have more Machine Doubling than normal examples. Note the hub doubling on the date, but note the yellow arrows. They are pointing to the Machine Doubling on these real DDOs. To be sure that you have the real deal, for get looking at the dates, look at the Motto and Liberty, the spread is more obvious on those areas: You can't miss the hub doubling on those areas. Forget looking at the date first. Report this Post to the Staff
josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 05/09/2021 6:26 pm Thank you for your expertise. I am attaching more photos let me know. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/09/2021 6:38 pm Just Machine Doubling. Not the DDO. Note the affected areas you looking at. Those areas are flattened, not showing spread. Note the size of the devices with normal devices and the DDO's devices. Now can you see the difference? Note the difference in spread, the devices are practically double in size. Now look at your coin again? Look at the centers of the devices, not on the outside edges of the devices. Edited by coop 05/09/2021 6:41 pm Report this Post to the Staff
josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 05/10/2021 07:10 am Dunque se non ho capito male moneta non importante. Report this Post to the Staff
josef57 Valued Member Italy 122 Posts	Posted 05/10/2021 07:12 am So if I have not misunderstood the currency is not important. Report this Post to the Staff
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