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1964-D Washington Quarter RPM ?

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 Posted 01/03/2009  1:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi

I picked up a bunch of silver today and decided
to check out the quarters for type B and C reverses
which I am very familiar with, but do not know much
about RPM's. This one stood out and did not look like MD
to me. I did a search and found a few that looked similar to this
and they stated double and even triple doubling. I cannot tell the diff. myself between single, double or triple. Any help would be appreciated and also if not MD, would it be worth holding on to
as for any real value. The coin looks to be in EF condition overall.

Thank's

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008...2906/64a.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008...2906/64b.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008...2906/64c.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008...2906/64d.jpg


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 Posted 01/03/2009  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doesn't look like a RPM. Any closer shots?
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 Posted 01/03/2009  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi

No, that's as tight as my camera can go. I even put a loupe on the lense and tried a macro as well as regular auto setting.
I just compared it with one I saw on ebay. Looks the same. Like a first doubling of the MM then over another D.
Guess they try to sell anything on ebay. I don't even remember if the MM was applied after or during the punch on the 64 quarters.
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Comparing anything to ebay is dangerous because well over half the poeple selling coins there don't have a clue.

It's Machine Doubling.
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Thank's. That's why I figured I would ask around here first.
I would personally not buy anything like RPM's (with my limited knowledge of them) unless they where slabbed by one of the top 3.
It still amazes me how similar (especially with MM's) Die and MD look
so much alike. Then I see some coins devices that are indeed die doubling and I see no spread whatsover on them. I can spot basic die varieties very well but this doubling is tough. I'm sure by now that at least 99% of DD's are already listed so it would be easy enough
to rule out some RPM's right off the bat.
Well, off to the bullion pile with it then.
Thank's again.
One last question. Would the DD effect on the coins devices be basically the same for let's say, silver as it is for copper, nickel, gold, zinc. etc. ?
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Indian - I would suggest some basic reading on die varieties. I have to be quite blunt that your last post barely makes sense. Let me try to clear a couple of things up...

Doubled dies (DDO, DDR) have nothing to do with RPMs. They are completely different things.

Buying RPMs slabbed by the 'top 3' - depends on who you consider the 'top 3'. You're not likely to find many at all slabbed by PCGS or NGC.

Actually Machine Doubling and doubled dies have many obvious differences. It's just a matter of learning them.

There is no such thing as 'die doubling' - it would be called 'hub doubling' since it's the hub that created the doubling on the die.

Nowhere near 99% of doubled dies are 'listed' - it's probably closer to 60%.

Doubled dies are doubled dies - doesn't matter the denomination, they are all the same thing.

Best to you.
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