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1958 Wheat Penny With Part Of Lettering Stamped On Rim/Edge?

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 Posted 06/01/2021  7:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Scott Holroyd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,
A few years ago I purchased several uncirculated rolls of 1958 P pennies. I finally started going through them a month or so ago. In a bank wrapped roll from The Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland I discovered about 25 coins with odd marks on the rim edge that appeared to be some sort of clash or die anomaly. The raised markings are exactly the same on all coins, but appear in different locations on different coins.
After puzzling over this for some time, I did a search for "1958 penny rim letters" and found this forum and topic. The markings on the pennies that I have are exactly like the photos submitted in this post. They do somewhat resemble letters but it is difficult to ascertain just what part of the mint process could achieve this result.
My thought is that the raised areas came about during the upsetting stage of the blank planchet. The rims on these "marked" coins are somewhat rounded and not nice and crisp edged like most uncirculated coins. If the anomaly was in the die it would occur in the exact same place on every coin struck.
I am open to any input from the experts.

Thank-you,
Scott
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 Posted 06/01/2021  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just contact marks from another coins raised devices, leaving incuse, mirrored devices on the rim. Just coin damage. Question for you to think about? If this edge was struck by a die, where are the rest of the devices? The die doesn't pick and choose devices. It is all of the design would be on the coin. These transferred off another coin.
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 Posted 06/01/2021  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scott Holroyd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank-you for your rapid response. The images are from 4 different coins. Very long odds that the exact same contact damage occurred on 25 separate coins. The marks are identical on every coin.
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You are posting and a very old thread. Please start a new thread of your own for your coins. You'll get more replies that way. Perhaps a MOD will help move your thread.

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 Posted 06/02/2021  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@scott, first welcome to CCF. Second, as pointed out by @merc, best practice is to start a new thread for each new coin. For reference, here is a link to that earlier thread with what might be a similar issue to yours.

http://goccf.com/t/363245
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 Posted 06/03/2021  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But this thread has been resurrected into a new thread. But my comments are still the same. It was not struck that way, but the coin was altered with another coin transferring the devices from one coin to another, mirrored onto your coin. There is no way to strike letters on than area that does not have letters from the die. So it is not a mint error. This occurred after the strike.
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 Posted 06/03/2021  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silviosi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In 80's many collectors stamped theirs coins on the rim with theirs identification. This was more European's. the European numismatic association in that time stamped very rare coins on the rim, so many collectors done same.
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 Posted 06/03/2021  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Post mint damage. This coin did not leave the mint looking like that. Sorry, no premium.
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 Posted 06/05/2021  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scott Holroyd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wasn't looking for a premium. Just an answer. I have looked at well over one million pennies in the last 50 + years and never seen this particular PMD. Just thought someone else out there might have seen this same "damage". Interesting response.
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