2007-P 25c Wyoming With Listed Doubled Die Reverse / DDR ?

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mb560600 Valued Member United States 356 Posts	Posted 06/19/2021 11:19 pm Found this 2007-P Quarter in my change with apparent reverse doubling. I checked Variety Vista and this coin appears to be the variety listed as DDR-036, but either an interim stage prior to B, or a later stage C. On the reverse the saddle horn is similarly doubled; there is a die break on top of the hat; and on the obverse there is a die crack/chip on the bust. These all appear to conform to VV DDR-036. Does this appear to be accurate? Thanks in advance for your comments. Report this Post to the Staff

SamCoin Pillar of the Community United States 3237 Posts	Posted 06/19/2021 11:50 pm There's glare obscuring the most crucial area (the inside of the saddle horn) where doubling would appear if there were any. I don't see anything, but to be 100% sure, I'd need a picture with no glare on that area. Report this Post to the Staff
mb560600 Valued Member United States 356 Posts	Posted 06/20/2021 12:52 am Here is a better photo of the saddle horn area with less glare; I have included arrows where there is doubling.This appears to be the same as DDR-036 on Variety Vista. Report this Post to the Staff
mb560600 Valued Member United States 356 Posts	Posted 06/20/2021 01:58 am Or if not exactly the same as DDR-036, could this be a new DDR? There are already 57 different varieties that have been listed on Variety Vista relating to doubling in the area around the saddle horn on the reverse---could this be #58? Report this Post to the Staff
mb560600 Valued Member United States 356 Posts	Posted 06/20/2021 4:00 pm I have further examined this coin for doubling. Please take a look at the areas immediately below the saddle horn which are identified by the arrows. There are several raised areas. These are arguably doubling. Given that this coin also has the relevant markers (the die break above the hat and on the bust on the obverse) I am still wondering if this could be a new stage of DDR-036, or a new DDR. I look forward to your comments. Thanks! Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 06/20/2021 4:19 pm You are showing two areas affected, V.V only shows the doubling on the first tuft of hair on the mane. http://www.varietyvista.com/09c%20W...0quarter.htm Check for better images of this online not seeing much good ones that will work for me. But note the affected areas on your coin. This could be slight Machine Doubling. All the examples I've seen on line show the doubling outside of the affected areas. Yours is showing the affected areas on the outlines of the devices. So Check to see in the same direction as the affected area is showing to see if Machine Doubling is present anywhere else. If looks like a medium bounce affecting half way up on those devices. I was surprised there are some listed with FS numbers on PCGS. But less than a hand full. Edited by coop 06/20/2021 4:44 pm Report this Post to the Staff
mb560600 Valued Member United States 356 Posts	Posted 06/21/2021 12:21 am Thanks Coop. There is no denying that there is apparent doubling under the saddle horn on this coin. To your point, look at DDR-030 and DDR-038. These exhibit doubling under the saddle horn stretching to the mane area. Each has doubling in an area similar to the coin at issue. Also look at DDR-051 which exhibits doubling in the same area below the saddle horn. So, my point is that the images of doubling on this coin are in the same specific area where similar DDR has been confirmed by VV. This leads me to my conclusion that this coin may indeed be a similar DDR at an earlier or later die stage. I look forward to further comments! Report this Post to the Staff
mb560600 Valued Member United States 356 Posts	Posted 06/21/2021 12:44 am Or, it may be a new DDR. Possible? Report this Post to the Staff
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2007-P 25c Wyoming With Listed DDR?