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1855 Braided Hair Cent (Upright 55?) Coin 3

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The third coin for your consideration is an 1855 Braided Hair Cent. I have determined this to be the upright 55 variety.

Another raw coin from the recently acquired collection. More info in coin 1 post. Florescent vs LED and video. What are your opinions on grade/condition and would this be worth sending to TPG?


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I'll say EF details (environmental damage). Guessing this wont clean up satisfactorily enough to pass muster.
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In my limited experience I dont see what would be cause for Environmental damage designation. Is it the green stuff above the braid and on the reverse? Is that patina? I generally thought environmental damage resulted in pitting and damage to the fields of coin. How would you go about cleaning it?
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I agree with coinfrogs assessment of the coin. I would send it in but it may not be worth it.
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AU50 probably details due to the verdigris. on the rim at K2 if that was removed you may see some corrosion. the spotting may be from how it was stored over the years. in either case this would be considered ED. even if it graded straight its not worth slabbing. the only way I know of cleaning and knowing for sure if there is corrosion would be to soak it in verdicare which is currently very difficult to find.
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The green patches are copper oxidation, but not what collectors of this series would consider "patina".
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The green stuff might come off. I've removed it from copper coins with little effort.
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AU50, Details as is, but if the verdigris is able to be successfully removed with unaffected spots underneath, then possibly straight grade.

I'd first start with an acetone soak. If unsuccessful, then I'd move to xylene isolated to just the problematic areas. I usually apply and roll over the problem areas with a qtip first, applying very minimal to no pressure. If more is needed then I apply with a pipette and use a toothpick, only making contact with the buildup/verdigris, not making contact with the coin.

Ive also done xylene soaks as well, but soaking time is typically less than acetone, and varies depending on each coin.
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Verdigris removal will likely still leave discolored spots that are inconsistent with the surrounding fields. I don't see this straight-grading.
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Coinfrog: The green patches are copper oxidation, but not what collectors of this series would consider "patina".

Verdigris removal will likely still leave discolored spots that are inconsistent with the surrounding fields. I don't see this straight-grading.


I agree, I do think Verdi-Care would take the green away, but as mentioned the area under it will likely not look right. Not worth submitting to a TPG IMO. Most EAC collectors don't want slabbed coins anyways. I wouldn't kick this one out of my EAC collection, though it wouldn't be a first line coin either. Nice details and a good strike, other than the corroded area I see a few very minor rim nicks and a couple of old, scratches on the cheek.

TPG Grade might go AU Details

EAC Grade EF40/40 net VF due to old oxidation/corrosion.
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AU-50 details, environmental damage.
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agree with AU sharpness with ED. With some luck maybe it will look better after verdigris removal.
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