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Is This 1856 Flying Eagle Genuine It Weighs Out Exactly

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Not 1st nor 2nd, but 3rd ;)
A first hit is cream, but being on the first page is the goal. Most never look at the second page before altering their query.
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I don't think it hurts anyone to do a little homework.
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Then give them an assignment, maybe with some goals. Saying "One-look obvious fake" is of no help to no one.
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So how's this: "Have you made any effort to check this coin against know genuine examples?" You mean something like that?
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"The 5 on this one looks like it crawled out of a snake charmer's basket." That's what I see. Creative writing for the win Coinfrog.

This is more interesting than seeing another 1921 proof Morgan though.

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So how's this: "Have you made any effort to check this coin against know genuine examples?" You mean something like that?
Better.

Better still... this...

http://goccf.com/t/403884&whichpage=2#3455218
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@jBuck,

While I'm all for helping and in many cases I will, this is an example of that we will never see the OP again. He (I'm 99% its a he) didn't win the coin lottery. Hence he won't be back. But no worries, Bobby actually makes out. This thread would have died after the 2nd or 3rd post, but since the Poison Dart of the Currency World was right to the point, and we are now having this discussion the page views go up (hence Bobby gets more traffic). But in this case, within the first post we'll never see the OP again, no coin lottery winner, no reason to stay on.
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I admit culpability here. I can be curt.

But I think all Moderators, whenever possible, should encourage every new member to do at least a little research into their question, perhaps only using the undersized and unappreciated Search box here, and use correct spelling and grammar before posting right-side up pics.

Just my thoughts.
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What do you see that makes you say it's a fake?

I asked this question because I compared the posted coin image with my 1856.
Mine is a PCGS MS-62 S-3 with an Eagle Eye sticker.
So I'm quite confident mine is legit.
I was trying to see how mine is different from the OP's.
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Claw? Face?
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It's still the 5 that sticks out for me.
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@Kanga,

You can tell yours is real just on the date. This is your date. Notice how the 1 has a square bottom, the 8 have perfect ovals and the 5 goes to a point. This is yours a real 1856:


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Now look at the fake, curved bottom on 1, the 8 ovals are crude, the 5 doesn't have the point. Not to mention the 6 is too far away.


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The other tell sign on the fake is the E, the E in the real is exaggerated. Notice how the middle bar almost or touches the other 2 bars.

The Real 1856 E


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The 1856 Fake E, its tiny. Simple bad copy.


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One of the reasons I don't like doing these comparisons is that know a faker can tell what one is looking for and can improve on the 1856. These are just 2 of the things to look for there are others but I'm not typing them.
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While I'm all for helping and in many cases I will, this is an example of that we will never see the OP again. He (I'm 99% its a he) didn't win the coin lottery. Hence he won't be back.
True, but this topic has over 500 views and will continue to show up in searches. Would be nice if people who land here in the future find an answer and not (another) dead end.
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But I think all Moderators, whenever possible, should encourage every new member to do at least a little research into their question...
Replace Moderator with Member and that is acceptable. Even that is better than "obvious fake."


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...perhaps only using the undersized and unappreciated Search box here, and use correct spelling and grammar before posting right-side up pics.
Raise your hand if you were born with the knowledge and ability to do all of that...

Put those hands down, you filthy liars!

We were all new to this at one time. For many of these new members, this is their very first experience with online forums. Let us show them some patience that I am sure most of us wish we were given. Remember, these newbs do not have thick skin from cutting their teeth on a BBS or in Usenet newsgroups like some of us do.
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