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 Posted 07/14/2021  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No. It would not result in a details grade. The acetone does nothing to the actual coin but it does remove debris from the coin. If you bought a straight graded coin you cracked it out, acetone dipped it, then resubmitted it (in theory) it should come back straight graded.
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 Posted 07/14/2021  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I just want to say that we do clean our coins. It was here that I first learned about acetone and have read that several others use it. Is that not considered cleaning?


Some of us prefer to make a distinction between conservation and cleaning.

In conservation you are arresting the effect foreign substances are having on the coin, most commonly by removing the offending substances. But you are doing so in a way that does not alter or remove any of the underlying metal of the coin.

You are taking the coin as it is and preventing future damage, but not doing any present damage.

The results can improve the appearance of the coin sometimes (but not always), but the key is not altering the original coin itself.

In cleaning, your goal is to improve the appearance of the coin, even if that means removing or altering existing metal.

If I conserve a coin by soaking it acetone and it doesn't look any better than it did before, I've still helped the coin because it won't look any worse 10 years from now (assuming proper storage, of course).

But if I clean a coin by mechanical or chemical means, not only have I altered (damaged?) the original metal of the coin, but I've virtually assured that it will look worse in 10 years than it does now.
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 Posted 07/14/2021  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HGK3 explained what I meant perfectly.
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 Posted 07/14/2021  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VestigeWolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the clarification.
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 Posted 07/14/2021  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Next time I scrub the shower I'll remember the difference between cleaning and conserving.
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 Posted 07/14/2021  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VestigeWolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL
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 Posted 07/15/2021  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting to see how this discussion has evolved.

Perhaps not so relevant to this discussion, but worth considering as a 'side':-
Almost all ancient coins have been cleaned after recovery, and sometimes preserved as well.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  04:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
HGK3 Nailed It!!! Very well put.
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