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1859 No Variety That I Can See. I Would Grade It VF-20. Need Confirmation

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 Posted 07/24/2021  5:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nickel picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
1859 no variety. All pics are of same coin different lighting and angles. I would like confirmation, or correction, on a vf 20 self grade...
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 Posted 07/24/2021  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I think that it's a VF-30. I'm not into the Haxby die numbers. It's hard to believe that the 2 Reverse photos are the same coin.
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 Posted 07/24/2021  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickel picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again sir. Yeah they are the same coin I assure you. The head on shot wouldnt show the field marks, so angle and lighting showed on the second shot.the obverse is really nice, but the reverse is bringing down the overall grade... to me anyways.
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 Posted 07/24/2021  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VF30
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 07/24/2021  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickel picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks DBM. Appreciate it.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea, it just makes VF-30 imo
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 Posted 07/28/2021  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it looks like the photos have been processed with some sort of smoothing filter / art effect.

NP, are these raw shots?
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 Posted 07/31/2021  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eagle_Eye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi there.
I've never seen one of these before.
I've noticed something interesting on your coin.
I'm guessing that is an olive branch running through her hair.
In the second to the last picture,
look where the Stem ends.
Something raised there outside of the design and next to that looks like a faint o even though it looks more like a zero to me.
Zoom way in!

Is it okay to point out the things that I see on other people's posts ?
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 Posted 07/31/2021  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
She has a laurel wreath in her hair and I don't know what you mean about where the stem ends ... on the Obverse (portrait side) or the reverse where there are 16 stems on the maple leaves.
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 07/31/2021  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eagle_Eye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@okiecoiner
Sorry about not being clearer about where I see what I do.
I downloaded the OP's pic and highlighted the area in question.
I hope that is okay.
It may be Pareidolia.
Not sure.
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 Posted 08/01/2021  07:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do a search for 1858 or '59 cents in this variety subforum and you'll see all kinds of Obv portrait examples. They all seem to have something where you have pointed out. It may be a piece of hair or ribbon or leaf lobe or something. It can't be a die chip because they all (the dies) seem to have something there. It may have been a chip off the hub that struck the dies. I guess we'll never know.
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@okiecoiner.
Thank you.
I will indeed search for those.
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 Posted 08/01/2021  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see an error there.
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 Posted 08/04/2021  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickel picker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the input on my photos. I am just using my phone camera no filters but obviously terrible lighting. Ill adjust and try to do better.
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