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Need Help With 1950's 10 Francs (France)

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 Posted 01/11/2009  01:38 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am hoping that someone on the forum is experienced with the 10 franc coins from france in the 1950's. I have quite a few and am trying to grade them but have no guidelines to work with or even a clear image example to base my grades upon.

If anyone can help with really good images of high grade examples or with grade guidelines that are used for this particular coin I would really appreciate it.

thanks
Malissa

p.s. known varieties, errors etc would help as well if there are any
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 Posted 01/11/2009  03:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rosso_rubino to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have to go on France sites, the one I'm using is https://www.cgb.fr this site sell France coins, and you can have several references in grade, varieties, evaluations and very good pictures, it is in more languages, english included ofcourse, and it is well organized for single coin research.
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thank you for that site link. I tried to find what I was looking for but I wasn't able to find it. I completely useless when it comes to foreign languages. maybe I will give it another try tomorrow.

thanks again
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 Posted 01/11/2009  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The type that you are looking for is here:
http://www.cgb.fr/monnaies/modernes...ire6201.html

That is the French version; click on the US/UK button to view the English version. However, "English" does not mean that each and everything is translated.

They do have great images there. The grades are provided in the French system (e.g. TTB is ~VF, SUP is ~XF, SPL is ~AU) but for Americans they also have the numeric Sheldon grades.

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 Posted 01/11/2009  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Malissadawn:

I'm something of a French aficionado, if you post images of coins I can help you with some ideas about grades, values. I have some print resources with guidelines to grading each French coin type and can relay that to you if you would like. In the 10 FFs from the 50s, I can tell you the key date is 1954, I've watched high grade examples of these go for good money on ebay. Most of the other dates are pretty common. Please let me know if you would like more info!

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 Posted 01/14/2009  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Hi Again:

Here's a link to a 10FF just posted on ebay, its the series [url]key[/http://cgi.ebay.com/France-10-Franc...54_W0QQitemZ330300649159QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item330300649159&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:10|39:1|240:1318] 1954.


Some other things to note when grading this series:
-the stem of the flower in the bust's hair on the obverse should be distinct, and never "blend" into the hair-- this is a high point that that wears down fast with use. The flower is a make-or-break detail for grades above VF.
-for XF and up, the face, ear and hair details need to be strong. These coins often have a soft, kinda mushy aspect overall in the top grades, just due to the nature of these strikes, so that's ok, but look at the hair details above the forehead and around the olive branch in the bust hair and the cockade.
-for AU and above, there should be minimal to no shocks and scratches in the fields and devices on both sides. MS grades can be expected to show a perfect rooster(!) with the rooster's eye well-discernable (this holds for all of the 50s era roosters, on the 10s, 20s and 50s.

Hope these notes help. Again, post questions/pics if you have anything further!
Best,
SC
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thanks seriousceres. I will be posting some pics later tonight or tomorrow. I can say for sure that most of mine are in at least the same shape as the link you posted. they have been well cared for. :)

thank you for your help and info
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 Posted 01/14/2009  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad to be of help, and looking forward to seeing some of your stuff!
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