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New Purchases From NY Show - Talers!

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So I hust returned from the New York City World Coin Show, which I truly enjoyed. Its a great opportunity to see very broad supply and identify targets for purchase. I was also able to trade in a few coins to upgrade my collection. In total I purchased a 4 Taler coins as well as Swiss Shooting medals. Specifically, the Talers (one missing here) are listed. I am very pleased !

Ferdinand Charles -2 Taler (Heavy Coin!):
Ferdinand Charles, Archduke of Further Austria (de: Erzherzog Ferdinand Karl von Österreich), (May 17, 1628 - December 30, 1662 in Kaltern) was the ruler of Further Austria including Tirol from 1646 to 1662. As the son of Archduke Leopold V and Claudia de' Medici, he took over his mother's governatorial duties when he came of age in 1646. To finance his extravagant living style, he sold goods and entitlements. For example, he wasted the exorbitant sum which France had to pay to the Tyrolean Habsburgs for the cession of their fiefs west of the Rhine (Alsace, Sundgau and Breisach). He also fixed the border to Graubünden in 1652. Ferdinand Charles was an absolutist ruler, did not call any diet after 1648 and had his chancellor Wilhelm Biener executed illegally in 1651 after a secret trial. On the other hand, he was a lover of music: Italian opera was performed in his court.
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Leopold - 2 Taler (Heavy/Thick)!
Archduke Leopold Wilhelm of Austria (Wiener Neustadt January 5, 1614 -Vienna November 20, 1662), was a military commander, Governor of the Spanish Netherlands from 1647 to 1656, and a patron of the arts. He is also known as Leopold Wilhelm von Habsburg but as a son of the Emperor carried the title Archduke of Austria. He was the youngest son of Ferdinand II of Habsburg and of Maria-Anna of Bavaria (1574-1616), daughter of William V, Duke of Bavaria. His elder brother became Emperor Ferdinand III (1608-1657). Leopold served as general in the Thirty Years' War. He became prince-bishop of Halberstadt (1628-1648), prince-bishop of Passau (1625-1662), prince-bishop of Wroc³aw (1656-1662), bishop of Olomouc (1637-1662) and bishop of Strasbourg (1626-1662). In 1635 Pope Urban VIII provided him to become the prince-archbishop of Bremen, but due to its occupation by the Swedes he never gained de facto power. When he assumed the government of the Spanish Netherlands, Leopold Wilhelm, being a great lover of art, employed the great Flemish painter David Teniers the Younger not only as a painter but as keeper of the collection of pictures he was then forming. With the rank and title of "ayuda de camara," Teniers took up his abode in Brussels shortly after 1647. Immense sums were spent in the acquisition of paintings for the archduke. A number of valuable works of the Italian masters, now in the Vienna Museum, came from Leopold's gallery after having belonged to Charles I and the duke of Buckingham. He commissioned the British painter John Michael Wright to acquire to travel to Cromwell's England, and acquire art and artefacts. When Leopold returned to Vienna, the pictures also travelled to Austria, and a Flemish priest, himself a first-rate flower painter, Van der Baren, became keeper of the archducal gallery. Leopold bequeathed his gallery to his nephew Leopold I, and it became imperial property. It is now part of the Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna.
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Salzburg - NGC Certified 1764 Taler (Sigismund III., Graf von Schrattenbach 1753 - 1771)

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New-Purchases-From-NY-Show---Talers!
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Wow! Fantastic coins, thanks for posting them.
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So how thick are they? Do you have a rule?

And can you tell me about the Shooting Thalers? Where they like medals that were given to the top places or just to everyone?
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Great purchases Zohar. I would love to attend that show some day. Did all the talers come from the same dealer? How many tables had nice austrian/german state material? Good crowds at the show?
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Very few Austrian Taler tables. Many more with German Talers (1, 2, 3 and 5, some certified) - Very tempting to toy with the German stuff. I got these from 2 dealers, each had a handful, yet I needed these rulers in 2 Taler version. I was fortunate to offload a significant amount as trade with my less desireable coins. My new years resolution will be to refocus the collection and fine tune the focus on the Habsburgs.

Crowds were decent, mostly for ancient coinage - many tables there. Good hearing from you.
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Some of the Salzburg pieces in the 18th century are difficult to find. I haven't been at it too long, but I cant recall ever seeing the DAV 1257 that you picked up graded by a TPG. From my old Krause, I see it is not a common issue. You are assembling quite a nice and challenging Salzburg set of talers. Someday you need to throw all the Salzburg talers into a thread and post them together.
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That was my thought on the 1257. I saw a few in the past on ebay or harshly cleaned, yet not in AU and certified. I may have overpaid a bit for this one, yet I figured it would be tougher finding one at such quality.
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