1987 Die Chip Or Close Enough To Rim To Be A Cud

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honky111 New Member United States 9 Posts	Posted 08/20/2021 5:52 pm Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 08/20/2021 5:58 pm Nope. A Cud always includes the rim. Looks like a die chip. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97433 Posts	Posted 08/20/2021 6:31 pm not a Cud, however it doesn't lk like a chip either.. it is too shiny, smooth and the curvature if it looks like a molten piece of copper was dropped on it. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34428 Posts	Posted 08/20/2021 7:33 pm Hmm, well you are going to get three different interpretations with this thread. This doesn't happen very often! My thought is that it isn't a Cud, nor a die chip, nor a drop of solidified copper, but rather a plating blister. @honk, can you please see if this bubble-thing can be depressed by the tip of a wooden toothpick? I think that it likely will. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21633 Posts	Posted 08/20/2021 8:03 pm I'll break the tie. I think it is a plating bubble. It seems too smooth for a die chip. Of course having the coin in hand you could say definitely which it is. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97433 Posts	Posted 08/20/2021 8:04 pm Anxiously waiting on the results of the toothpick test. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97433 Posts	Posted 08/20/2021 8:06 pm I have never seen a plating bubble to be so perfectly smooth and shiny before Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 08/20/2021 8:38 pm A plating bubble will give. A die chip will not give. A split plating issue will also not give as the zinc rises above on the coin: But most of the time, we will see a gray or white color where the split plating happened. Report this Post to the Staff
Oldfordman Pillar of the Community United States 2869 Posts	Posted 08/20/2021 9:43 pm Plating bubble I guess. Report this Post to the Staff
honky111 New Member United States 9 Posts	Posted 08/21/2021 10:34 am thanks everyone I didnt have toothpick but tried a needle its solid Report this Post to the Staff
Bumpkin Pillar of the Community United States 509 Posts	Posted 08/21/2021 12:26 pm If it won't depress or you can't deform it, especially with a needle in this instance, then the only other thing I would think it could be is a very large die chip. JimmyD made a good point about it being smooth which I thought too. My guess is if it is a die chip then it has just been smoothed and worn down over time through circulation. Just my HO. Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 08/21/2021 2:44 pm Looks by default to be a die chip, although like others have stated, it doesn't have the characteristics of a normal die chip. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97433 Posts	Posted 08/21/2021 2:56 pm As I stated before, I still think it is NOT a die chip. I stand by my estimate that a blob of copper was melted and dropped on the coin. AS I stated before and then JimmyD repeating that it is too smooth to be a chip. A chip results from a die that had a piece broken off of it. I cannot see a chip breaking away and having a mirror finish on the surface. So I don't think that by 'default' it is a chip of ANY kind. I also can't understand why I get dismissed so easily by some of you. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34428 Posts	Posted 08/21/2021 3:17 pm @dear, I don't think that anyone is dismissing your opinion. I'm glad that you are advocating for your position, just like others are advocating for theirs. While it would be unusual for a die chip to have a smooth surface, is it impossible? We may not reach a consensus on this one and that is ok. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 08/21/2021 4:40 pm No one is "dismissing" you dear Dearborn, I was only sharing MY opinion, just like you and everyone else. We value your opinion, Dearborn. We may not always think alike, and that's a good thing, don't you think? Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 08/21/2021 8:13 pm A Die Cud would be taller than the rim on the coin: Because the outside edge of the die broke off the die: When a void is created on a die, the void will fill to the shape of the crack/chip/break/cud. As long as there is metal, the void only fills so high, until it runs out of metal. The opposite side will not form because of the void on the other side of the die, thus the area opposite the Cud will be weak. Report this Post to the Staff
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