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1909 S VDB Lincoln Wheat Cent - Added "S"

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I try to post some of the counterfeits I get as examples of what to look for. This one has a glued on "S" and could easily be bought by someone unfamiliar with these coins.

1909-S VDB Lincoln Wheat cent - added mint mark


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Thanks for posting these fakes.
If people look closely, without even comparing MM position to known examples, the streaks of color on the "S" go a different direction than the color on the date and fields.
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Interesting. Thanks for showing us this counterfeit example.
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Wow! Glued on.
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 Posted 08/17/2021  08:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VestigeWolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's amazing. Thanks for sharing. Excellent coin though. What happens to it now? Does it retain any value since it is only the mint mark?
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Thanks for sharing! That is still a pretty nice V.D.B.
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Pretty well done, I must admit. If you know the 4 accredited MM positions it's clearly wrong, but if you're not really familiar with them, it could be a fooler.
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That had to be a lot of work to accomplish and have it look that good!
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Also the location of the dots are not correct on the V.D.B.
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Very nice bats!
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Yeah, it looks pretty good, and did when I first looked at it too. But it's had a lot of work done on it including a full coin cleaning and some tooling so not really a good coin. Seems very professionally done, as even with my pics it's hard to see all the work done on it. Someone knew what they were doing.
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 Posted 08/20/2021  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks TB for the example. Important to consider with a big purchase like that. Thanks for the additional info COOP. Shame to see skills wasted on making fakes.
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If it had not been the flow in the metal I would not have noticed this one.
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An acetone soak may remove that mm.
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Acetone probably would remove it, but certainly not going to do that. I collect counterfeits. And can't be Gorilla glue, as that stuff expands as it dries and would not be suitable for this kind of work. I'm thinking regular old superglue.

Some of the reasons why this is a counterfeit have been noted, but also note that it is the wrong MMV for this year.
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