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Help With 1970 Manitoba Centennial Nickel Dollar - Case (A) Variety

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According to the Charlton Standard Catalogue, there are three varieties of RCM cases of issue for the 1970 Manitoba Centennial nickel dollar. I have both case (B) and (C) varieties in my collection, but I have yet to come across an example of case (A), which Charlton describes as "black leatherette square case, gilt RCM crest, blue insert". One retail contact suggested that the case may actually be blue, not black, as issued with the 1971 nickel dollar. What's the true description? Does anyone have a clear image of case (A) they can share?
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Hi Outdoorsman.
Your question got me curious, so I did a little looking. I just assumed the cases would be pretty much the same with just come minor differences.
Let me see if I have this right.
From what I could see, case B looks to be the standard red.
Case C is black and looks to have been sold in Japan.
I see there is a blue cased version that looks to have been given out to school kids. Perhaps this is A?
I'm not promoting this seller, but it's just a listing I found for a different case.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/15307789809...Cclp:2334524
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Hi rjlavoie:
The student version is the first I've seen for the 1970 Manitoba centennial nickel dollar. While the insert is indeed blue, the outer case (according to Charlton Coin Catalogue) should be black leatherette and square.
I don't see anything on the seller's images that would indicate that the outer cardboard box is a Royal Canadian Mint ( RCM) product. I'd hazard a guess that the coin card and outer box was issued by the Manitoba government, and possibly specifically by the Manitoba Centennial Corporation, in 1970.
Interesting though. Thanks.
I did contact a retail coin shop recently that had a 1970 Manitoba centennial nickel dollar in a blue "rectangular" RCM case, but I suspect someone put a spare 1970 dollar into an empty 1971 thru 1976 RCM case. Those were all blue leatherette clam case, Coat of Arms of Canada, blue and black insert.
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Would this be it? They used these for early specimen strikes, from 1968 to 1970. I took this photo at the Bank of Canada Currency Museum a few years ago.

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You may well be on to something SPP-Ottawa.
I have both the Canada 1968 and 1969 cased nickel dollars in my collection. They are a black leatherette square clam case, with blue interior. That would be a likely match for the Case of Issue (A) as described in the Charlton Catalogue.
My guess, the Mint had some extra (1958 and/or 1959) square cases left over when they started to roll out the 1970 cased nickel dollars, before they converted over to the maroon rectangular clam cases.
Those early square cases, in good condition (i.e., non-rusted, mold free), are harder to come by. Likely also true for the 1970 issues.
Thanks for that lead. Now to find an actual example from a retailer or collector to confirm that for sure.

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Sorry for the typo.... the 1968 and 1969 Canada nickel dollars, not (1958 and/or 1959) per my previous post.
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A successful conclusion to my enquiry. Thanks to all who responded.
A coin dealer I previously obtained both the 1968 and 1969 Canada cased nickel dollars from back in May also had the 1970 Canada nickel dollar (Manitoba Centennial) in the black square leatherette clamshell case (A). See image.
I have placed an order.
My first experience with this forum has been very positive.

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Excellent!! I have a soft spot for Canadian nickel dollars, and am happy this worked out for you.
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