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United States
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This one was in a collection of counterfeits I bought off a dealer a while back. I am far from expert on these, and am asking for help determining why he called it a "copy" on the slip. I like to put on the label what the problem is so I can reference it later, but I am unsure exactly what is wrong with this one other than the shape of the interior of the mint mark is not the right shape. 1916-D Mercury dime counterfeit - help please     |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The orientation of the mintmark is not correct. It should be tilted more clockwise. If you draw imaginary lines from the serifs of the mintmark they should line up with with an area higher than than middle leg of the "ONE"
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Possibly an altered 1916-S dime? I see tooling marks around the D, and the coin could've been artificially worn to hide the tooling.
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United States
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If it is an altered 1916-s, then at least you have 90% silver dime there.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2951 Posts |
You can actually compare yours to mine on the latest acquisitions thread here  . But yeah, I can definitely see the mm is off from being genuinely shaped... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wouldn't it be great if you found out it was actually real?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Well for one thing the MM is too bold for all that wear on the reverse .  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree the MM orientation is not correct.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm not an expert. The mint mint mark's orientation is slightly off. This is a real one:  Here is the real one over the picture. Looks like it is in the same place and has the triangle inside the D. Here is yours  The real one overlaid over yours. Its really close.  Some photo shop blending magic. Its really close.  This is one I would send to ANACS, it may be real. Edited by hfjacinto
08/26/2021 10:18 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looking at Photo grade there are 4 different dies of the Mercury dime. Again this looks like one of the die states. I could be wrong but this one leaves enough questions that I'm just not sure if its counterfeit. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Send it in on a special. I am at 50 50 right now looks real .
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7273 Posts |
I sent the picture to my friend at the coin shop. His biggest concern was all the fresh scratches. This should be worn smooth all around the fresh scratches are a concern. He also recommended dipping the coin for a while in acetone, if the D was glued on it might just pop off.
From the dealer: "I get a few 16-D a year in and most are really easy to spot as fakes. If I can't tell in a few seconds I go to deeper checks, there have been a few that pass all the checks and I still felt funny, offered to grade and would buy if it came back authentic. Of the few that said sure no problem, only 1 came back NOT authentic, if the person said no and walked away, chances are it wasn't real, so no loss to me".
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Canada
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Looks real to me. I'd send it in for grading. Worth the try
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Thanks for all the great comments! At least I'm not totally senile yet as I'm fairly good with counterfeits but could not honestly figure this one either way. So I'm going to do as suggested and see what happens. I've only got a couple things for ANACS right now but will probably be stopping by the Timonium, MD coin show on Sunday and Geoff will be there for ANACS. I can drop off what I've got plus maybe I dig up a few more things between now and then. I'll update this thread when the results are in.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Its appeared the D mint was tooled in that area, the fresh scratches help to hid the flaws around it, to make it look evenly circulated damage.
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 United States
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Interesting discussion. Let us know what ANACS says.
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Posted 08/26/2021 01:45 am
