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Thoughts On This Strike Through? (1940 Nickel)

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What do you all think this nickel was struck through? It's very unique, and I don't believe it's a grease strike.

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Weight will be over 5 grams if something was added to the surface. The weight will be less than 5 grams is metal has been removed from the coin. So the weight is important to know at this time. It was not struck like that. Someone altered it.
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held by tongs while acid ran over it? note how Jefferson's profile is echoed in the ripples
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Weight will be over 5 grams if something was added to the surface. The weight will be less than 5 grams is metal has been removed from the coin. So the weight is important to know at this time. It was not struck like that. Someone altered it.


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to the CCF!

I'm wondering if this coin has been heated with a torch. The surface looks like coins that have been heated to the melting point with a high-pressure flame. The 'echoing' of the devices is also seen on this type of heat damaged coin. Nothing that I know of in the minting process could have caused this.

The image above makes it look like the coin isn't round, so I measured it in Photoshop. It's wider than it is tall, but this could just be a problem with the image supplied. @Slickyboyboo: Can you confirm if the coin is out-of-round or if it's normal size?

@coop Would this be something that you would want to ask Mr. Diamond about?
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The image above makes it look like the coin isn't round, so I measured it in Photoshop. It's wider than it is tall, but this could just be a problem with the image supplied. @Slickyboyboo: Can you confirm if the coin is out-of-round or if it's normal size?


It is not out of round, it is perfectly round. The image is just at an angle.
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I'm in the "Tongs and Torch" camp.
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I think we need Mike on this. Just throwing this out there: on the reverse there are a few letters that remind me of SEVERE trail lines, which is major over polished die.? http://www.traildies.com/
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Slickyboyboo replies to my question...

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It is not out of round, it is perfectly round. The image is just at an angle.

Thanks for checking! I thought that might be the case, but I wanted to rule out that possibility.
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I'm in the "tongs and acid" camp.
That might account for gravity affecting acid and allowing the "rivulet" or ridges to form by flowing "downhill".
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I'm going to change it up and say that it was done manually with an engraver or Dremel tool with a small (tiny) bit. Notice how the Monticello building seems to be 'outlined' and the letters of the device at the pot are not affected.
I think that if acid was allowed to 'rain' down on a coin that was tipped up a bit, the acid trails would not have starts and stops that we see at the building edges. but instead would probably pool up for a second then drip over the top making a continuous line
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... and say that it was done manually with an engraver or Dremel tool with a small (tiny) bit. ...


Except a tool wouldn't be able to stop and start on each side of a device (TRUST, EPU, etc.) and leave the device unaffected.

The rev seems to be affected with deeper grooves than the obv which seems to indicate the rev was subjected to the "torture" longer than the obv.
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The only thing I can add is that it is not a Struck Through anything and it is PMD.
Exactly how it happened I'm not sure but I'm leaning towards acid.
Anxious to see if Mike can give an opinion.
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The only thing I can add is that it is not a Struck Through anything and it is PMD.
Exactly how it happened I'm not sure but I'm leaning towards acid.
Anxious to see if Mike can give an opinion.


Please explain how it can not possibly be a strike through, and is without a doubt PMD.
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I'd suggested acid, but now I like Yokozuna's torch idea better because I suspect acid would need to be excessively strong to create those rivulets within a short duration pour. A long duration pour would tend to smooth the rivulets. The areas without rivulets would be where tongs held the coin and conducted blowtorch heat away.
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