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2001 Vermont State Quarter. Cud? Or? Help.

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Hey guys. Newbie here and my first post. I have been error hunting for 6 months or so now. I have found several different errors and will post others I'm sure. For now this one has me stumped as far as what it is called and possible value. It is a 2001 Vermont State Quarter. Under the microscope you can tell it is clearly missing a layer. Also it has a large Cud on the obverse. On this Cud is the imprint of the Georgia State Quarter reverse. How could this happen during the process? Any and all information including possible value is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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to the CCF

The discolouration is from Environmental Toning.
What you are referring to as a Cud is actually some sort of
paste like substance that has been applied to the coin and
another coin pressed into it. You probably could remove it.
The value is still 25 cents.
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How could this happen during the process?


It can't happen during minting--this is not an error coin as noted by @jimmy.
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Ok. I found it during roll searching. Purchased several rolls from my local bank and this guy popped out. I tried to peal it off and it won't budge. I have no idea how it could happen. Very strange indeed.
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If it were a Cud, on the reverse there would be a weakness from the lack of resistance during the strike because of the void on the die in that area:
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It will be seen on the opposite side of where the Cud is:
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Thank you for the Cud clarification. I'm not sure of the correct terminology....but...when a coin is struck over 100s of times and pieces of the coin stick to the die....again can't remember the term...could that be possible? A piece broke off and gets caught between the planchet and die? I'm just scratching my head on this one. It won't budge. Also there are tiny microscopic holes all over the front and back. Uniform lines across the whole coin. The picture I submitted looks environmental but in person it doesn't. Around the rim I can see a clear distinction of metal as well. And the rim is shining and looks normal. I don't know. Very wierd.
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Looks like a foreign substance.
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to the CCF!

This isn't an error coin, just Post Mint Damage.

It's sort of like a Vise Job, but instead of a second coin being pressed into the metal of the first coin, someone has put a substance on the coin and then pressed the reverse of a Nevada State Quarter (Not Georgia) into that area. You can see a reversed TE on the ribbon from the motto THE SILVER STATE and part of the sagebrush. You can also see the rim behind both ends of the added material. If it were a Cud, you wouldn't see this.

It looks like a silvery-gray epoxy resin on the surface of the coin, maybe a product called J.B. Weld. Epoxy starts as a liquid and then hardens. You could press another coin into it as it solidifies and get a reverse image of the second coin as seen here. As coop noted above, if it were a Cud, it would show weakness on the opposite area of the reverse.

Epoxy is meant to be permanent and would be almost impossible to remove. It is used to reattach broken pieces of metal in the automotive industry. I once sealed an 18" crack in an engine block on a VW Bug with J.B. Weld.
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I agree with Coinfrogand Yokozuna.

Or it might be dried gum that is stuck to the coin. I could see some kids doing that.
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. I agree with environmental damage and a substance stuck to the coin,maybe epoxy. You could try soaking it in 100% If it is epoxy it most likely will not come off using acetone.pure acetone.
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just PMD.
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Thanks everyone. I about had a heart attack when I found it. Haha. Makes me so mad people would do this. Not cool. Not cool at all. Ugh. On with the hunt.
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