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 Posted 01/13/2009  11:27 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add richardrr1973 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone. I'm a newbee and have a situation that I thought would be simple. I'm actually moving to a different state and thought the moving of all the contents of my house would be the biggest issue. It never occured to me until now that my coin collection worth about 50,000 dollars would be the biggest thorn in my side.

When my collection grew large enough I began to store my collection in a safe deposit box. It never crossed my mind what I would do if I ever had to move this. I thought about putting them in my car but I think this is too risky(even if I were pulled over by a traffic cop and he wanted to search the car I don't know if I would feel safe with a cop seeing my coin collection.)

I thought about sending them registered mail but since registered mail only goes up to 25,000 dollars I would have to ship in two packages. I'm thinking I have to move first, open up a safe deposit box, then make a special trip by plane to come back and pick up my coins. While I don't feel comfortable having my bag searched and having everyone on the plain see my collection I think this is safer than transporting them by car.

Is this a really unique situation or has someone else had the same issue at one time? I know dealers carry millions of dollars worth of coins to shows but they also travel in numbers and they still get a little nervous everytime they come to and from a show.

thanks everyone,

Richard
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 Posted 01/13/2009  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

If you really have 50k worth and you are leery of transporting it yourself, then I would recommend hiring the services of an armored carrier, like Brinks or Loomis.
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 Posted 01/13/2009  11:39 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I work at a retail job that makes us physically drop cash in the safe instead of the till as it doesn't pop sometimes. As a manager I "clear" deals from others and keep thousands in my pocket at once. Doesn't bother me at all anymore

If you dwell on it thinkin someone will see it or steal it people can read you like a book. I have moved my collection twice now and just had everything packed in normal boxes that I kept in my possession at all times.

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 Posted 01/13/2009  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SJUHawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO, this is not something you'd want to ship. You've spent, most likely, years accumulating this, and I would think it's worth more than just money to you.

Sure if it gets lost in the mail you'd be reimbursed, but it wouldn't be the same. You wouldn't have your coins back.

I would think that driving them would be ideal. If you're willing to pay for a round-trip flight just to get them, surely you can afford to take a friend with you, or possibly hire a security person to make the trip with you. $50K is not chump change.

Either that or just travel main roads during the day, and bunk up for the night at first signs of darkness. I'd want to be out in the open in bright sunshine with this stuff on the road, just in case you did get pulled over.

Heck, you could even stop by some small-town banks on the route and pick up some boxes of rolled coins. I hear those are the best places to CRH.
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 Posted 01/13/2009  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MtnCoinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Move them by car. If you can afford it, pay a friend to follow you in their car. This is safety in case your car breaks down or some other problem occurs. Also, if both vehicles can have two drivers, you can drive straight through. Be sure to have a safe deposit box available at your destination and arrive there while the bank is open so you can move them straight away to the SDB.
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 Posted 01/13/2009  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I can quell one worry if you drive them yourself (valid in USA). If the cop wants to search your car, tell him no. If you do not consent to his searching your car, and you don't have something like a gun or drugs in plain sight, he can not legally search your vehicle. Of course, my worry would be a traffic accident. Is short term insurance available for something like this perhaps?
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 Posted 01/13/2009  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PennehChaos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Police either need probable cause or your permission to search your car. If you look like a normal law-abiding citizen and drive well they're not going to have PC, so don't let them bully you into giving permission.

I'd make a special trip, load the coins in the trunk in plain ol' luggage, don't leave ANYTHING of value in the cabin of the vehicle where it can be seen, and make the trip. Unless you're driving your own moving van, in which case I'd just pack them in a couple of boxes, label them "DISHES", and make the run. Unload them early, put them in the kitchen, then move them to the new bank the following day. That was the route I took when moving a few grand worth of firearms two years ago.
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 Posted 01/13/2009  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jays-Dad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've always felt that the best security for my coins is to hide them in plain sight. For long term storage, I just put stuff in boxes in my garage and cover the boxes in a jumble of empty boxes. Nobody would ever suspect there's anything there. You could just put them in boxes labeled "dishes" and put a few dishes on top and move them in your car. The more you sweat it and make a big deal, the more others think its a big deal.
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 Posted 01/13/2009  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IBGolden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Sure if it gets lost in the mail you'd be reimbursed...


Dude... I wouldn't count on it.
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Just load 'em into your car with a bunch of other stuff and drive. No way I'd trust them to anyone but myself. I'm a concealed carry permit holder so I'd be packing in case anyone tried to rob me. I'd probably bring my brother for the ride too since he also has a CC permit. Just make sure you have insurance on the coins and that they'll cover them while in transit. You shouldn't have any problems.
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 Posted 01/13/2009  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you're moving most of your house with a company, I would round up everything related to coin collecting and move that yourself. This includes books, magazines--anything that suggests you collect coins. Not that movers won't be legit, but the less people that know, the better--I learned my lesson once. As for the coins themselves, I would probably ship my unimportant stuff, and keep the good ones in a briefcase I can watch 24/7. A Brinks type transport would be a good idea if there's simply too much to carry on you. Good luck!
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Last time I moved, I moved the coin collection myself. It was in non-descript beer boxes I had labeled CC1, CC2,(Coin collection 1, 2,...) and everything was taped securely, and lots of packing materials inside. I did not trust for one minute that the movers would pack it and move it without anything missing.
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Thad beat me to it. Strap up if you have a permit to do so. It would make me feel better thats for sure. I'd say drive them as well, shipping would make me nervous no matter what.
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Drive them if you can. You may want to check with your auto/homeowner's insurance company to find out what your personal property limits are in the unlikely event that the unthinkable happens and your stuff gets stolen, and see if you can get a rider to cover the value over the standard policy amount. And don't get too paranoid if you can help it.
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I just carried a valuable collection back from California on a plane (no choice). My Uncle gave it to me. I can assure you that if you carry it on a plane you are going to get searched at security. You can ask for private screening, but that doesn't mean they will do that. Furthermore, everyone will know anyway that you are carrying valuables. I think a car with a locking trunk and a security system is much safer. Just pack it in a cardboard box and take it in with you at motels and order delivery for dinner. Good luck!
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 Posted 01/13/2009  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add christian_cyclist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I moved from California to Nevada, which ended up being a short distance of 250 miles. Since I was moved by my company, they took care of everything: packing, loading, transporting, and unloading. Everything was insured but I didn't want to take a chance with my valuables, including my unorganized coin hoard. Those things were loaded in my car and I drove them myself.

If you drive then just keep your car locked when you stop for food, a restroom break, a gas, etc. While certainly possible if you think long and hard about it, you're chances of being car jacked or having your car stolen are pretty low. If a cop does pull you over and does search your car then I don't think he'd get as flipped out by a $50k coin collection as he would a suitcase full of $50k in $20 bills or 50kg of cocaine. The officer may be surprised and you may have to explain that you're moving. Perhaps the worst that he can do is call in the station and ask if anyone has reported a missing coin collection. Once any suspicion is cleared then I don't think there's much he can do but take some time to ask you to show him your coins so he can admire them. :-) Better yet, just drive conservatively and defensively.

If you take it on a plane then, yes, you will be searched but without any cause or suspicion there's nothing the authorities can do. They won't confiscate it. Take what you can in your carry on. Put the rest in a suitcase and pad it with clothes. Who would suspect what's inside your case when it reaches the conveyor belt at the arriving airport? Will the TSA steal it? Unlikely. The last thing they need is some bad PR by you suing them for $50k of lost coins.

Insuring them is a good thing. Take as many photos of your coins for your own records too. biokemist6 gave some good advice on using an armored transport like Brinks. They move way more than $50k at a time.

If you feel too nervous moving it now then stick it in a bank with a safety deposit box. Move into your new home. Then come back and move your collection when you feel more comfortable and things are a bit less hectic.

I think you'll be OK. Just don't fret about it too much but don't doddle along as you make your way over to your new home.

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