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Valued Member
United States
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I found a 1999 Pennsylvania State Quarter with a gold obverse and a rainbow reverse. On the reverse, it looks like the ribbon is laying wrong on the right side of the pole? I found some "experimental" gold planchets, but none with a gold front and rainbow reverse? For some unknown reason, the gold color on the obverse, shows a clear spot in the photo, but the clear spot, is actually rainbow colored. It will not show up in photos? I've taken it at different views, with light and w/o light? It's a mystery?  
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Toning is not considered an error as it occurs after the coin has been struck. The ribbon is part of the proper design. Use the US Coin Facts forum in the left column to find out this information on most US coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 United States
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Yes it is experimental, but on the part of someone outside of the mint. This person may be leading how to intentionally tone coins and this was one of their test pieces.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Agree, this is not environmental toning.
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Valued Member
 United States
163 Posts |
In researching this issue, in 1999, some coins were certified because the same color was used for the Sacagawea coins. Hence, the coloring. So, it actually considered an error on some coins according to Wexler. There is a certified and graded quarter by PCGS. But, it shows both sides with the gold toning?
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Valued Member
 United States
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Well, I read the forum on toning, naturally and artificially? Now, I'm confused more than ever? I've seen coins that have gone for lots of money due to their beautiful rainbow effect, and some called damaged? Some were PCGS by a NGS? Who's right, who's wrong? Hmmm?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Several things can alter the color on a coin. Cleaning/heat/storage in the wrong place and unnatural tonging. How is is this done. I'm no expert on this as I don't believe in this. On a roll I bought that were altered, I wonder if they could be fixed and found out they couldn't:   I heard it was done with a candle and soapy water to dry the coin. Ruined a good roll of 1955 coins. Some cleaned coins can turn an ugly color even in the better albums: These were BU and placed in an album and the color altered:   Sometimes carbon spots can alter color:   While it looked nice at the time, later I realized it was a spots on the rim that was altering the color. Something added to the coin or removed from the coin:     CoopHome: How can you tell if someone is selling theses fakes? Check their other auctions. Often they think it is so neat, the flood the market with the ones they have altered.
Edited by coop 09/06/2021 2:43 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Well, I read the forum on toning, naturally and artificially? Now, I'm confused more than ever? Hello Miss Italy. I know how difficult and frustrating it is to learn about all the different errors, varieties, and in this case toning issues. My one best piece of advice is to slow down and focus on one particular subject at a time. The world of collecting and numismatics is can definitely be extremely overwhelming at times. I dealt with the same thing when I first started out many, many, many, years ago. However, I realized that I wasn't going to learn what I so badly wanted to learn in a week, a month, or even a year..... It takes time and patience. You may want to read a certain article one day, let it sink in, and then go back and read that same article a few days later and it will most likely make more sense the second time around. At least that's how I begin to finally figure stuff out about coins. Just wanted to throw this out there for you in the hopes it may help you. Just hang in there, weather the storms, and before you know it you will be filled with a memory bank of knowledge even if it takes years.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thanks @Bumpkin and everyone else. Yes, it can be confusing and somewhat frustrating! I do enjoy it tho and look forward to learning as much as I can.
I do read, and read and re-read! I've bought books, checked out different sites that CC has recommended, and believe me, I'm going ooohhh, I see it now. But, you're absolutely right about reading and then going back to read again. Once you move from one subject, start another, the past subject comes back and then I have to go back! It's almost as if you have to start young and pass from generation, etc. I'll never kearn all of this in my lifetime. Some errors are just so questionable, I don't want to miss my FIRST find, already! I have to accomplish at least one after a long year and a half! Thanks all!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Did you feel that you would never accomplish reading when you first started school? But you did. It took time ad patience. Give it a try here. Take your time. When you have questions, ask. The only dumb question is the one not asked and you start to assume. (A trick word with a hidden message. Maybe the question you ask/or thread you start with a question, maybe the one that many other new ones wonder about? As far a learning everything, I'm still learning more almost daily. So its secrets are hidden well on this subject. You'll learn more here than other places a lot quicker. You have many coin brothers/sisters here to help you.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Toning is "beautiful" to some but it officially considered an altered coin with damage. 
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