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1988 P Dime, Collar Clash + Mad + Rim Fin. Worth Anything?

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 Posted 09/09/2021  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Wrekkdd.. Do you have any idea who Mike Diamond is? Surely researching errors you have come across this name..

One of the foremost authorities on USA error coins.. You can take his opinion to the bank..
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 Posted 09/09/2021  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I apologize I did not know, so if it's not a Rim Fin mike what am I looking at?
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 Posted 09/09/2021  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it a collar clash on both sides of the coin and to me it just looks like a Rim Fin because the edges are jagged. I'm well aware collar clashes hold little to no premium as an error but are fairly rare, so would a double collar clash be exceptionally rare lol? Also I have never sold a coin and I never spend my americain coins I pull every us coin I find from circulation and horde them lol. I apologize for debating with a pro like yourself mike, I'm still a learner, I just kept questioning because I'm being told something is not what I think it is but not being told what it is.
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 Posted 09/09/2021  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At 12 ocklock on the reverse is that a fin or is that just from. Being a misaligned die? ?
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 Posted 09/09/2021  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I've already said, your dime shows two areas of collar clash on the obverse. That is relatively rare, although there's little market value attached to it. A fin is not defined by jagged edges. It is a thin vertical flange that extends upward (or downward) from the rim/edge junction. It forms when coin metal flows in the narrow gap between die neck and collar. Now that you mention it, the reverse face does seem to have a low fin around part of the perimeter. I think I've said all that can be said about this specimen.
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 Posted 09/09/2021  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mike. First time I've seen a double collar clash before. I knew you would know about this. Thanks again Mike.
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 Posted 09/09/2021  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mike I understand exactly what has happened to cause this coin now. Though it took more reading then I'd normally do in a night after work. And as I was hoping for it's a double collar clash:) and the fin on the reverse I see on many coins. But to have a small rim fin/MAD coin with a double collar clash, even if not valuable... If it's 1/10000 it's a great find:) if it's 1/100000 it's amazing if it's 1/1,000,000 then I'm super surprised. So even if it's not valuable if it's uncommon then it's a great piece.
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 Posted 09/09/2021  9:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First one I've seen. A collector might want it, just to have one. But price? (I have no clue.)
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 Posted 09/09/2021  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now Wrekkdd aren't you glad I asked about a "double collar clash?.......nice little keeper there...

Thanks coop and Mike D. for all the information/education
You guys rock.....
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 Posted 09/09/2021  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know how I would ever go about selling a coin lol, this one though I'm happy how I turned out and it will definitely be one of my educational pieces even if worth face value:)
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 Posted 09/09/2021  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Out of curiosity since you pros haven't seen many or any how rare is this die event? I realize it's not an error or very sought-after, but I'm curious how rare this is.
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 Posted 09/09/2021  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well it was the first one I've seen in 30 years.
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 Posted 09/10/2021  06:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. that's surprising coop, considering I found it on an American coin, and I mayb have 1 -2 rolls of dimes I've pulled from circulation.
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 Posted 09/10/2021  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you think there would be a small premium on a coin like this? Or would it just depend on if a collector even wanted it I could mayb sell it for a few dollars? Just kinda trying to get a Handel on what it's worth if anything.


I feel like I may have seen another double collar clash coin on this site but I can't find it. If you experts had to be guess how rare is this die event? I'm surprised coop has never seen one. Mike Diamond never mentioned if he has seen this either. I see some collar clashes have sold on ebay with a bit of a premium, though I have no intention of selling anything on ebay ever and there is sold listings for just about every type of error/variety/die event that I can think of.
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 Posted 09/12/2021  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So no one knows how rare of a die event this would be(probability). And I guess even if it is super rare with die events it's all in the eye of the beholder(me) and the eyes of any numismatic collector of die events that would decide what it would be worth if on the market. I would just like to know if it's like 1/1,000,000? 1/10,000,000? 1/1,000,000,000? Even if there isn't much of a market for this if any it would be nice to know for my own knowledge.
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