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United States
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Do coins with features of an MS 63 (luster, cartwheel, grade, no wear etc) become automatically disqualified to a lower grade MS(MS-62,61 or 60) as a result of having whizzing marks (light or heavier)?
In a nutshell, does any degree of whizzing prevent coins from getting any MS grade?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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MS coins that are whizzed are doomed. Full stop.
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Moderator
 United States
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They are no longer MS coins and are considered damaged coins. The damage cannot be reversed.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
561 Posts |
Like the others have said, it's no longer an MS-6X coin, now it's an "Unc Details" coin. Once whizzed (irreparably damaged) a coin is no longer "Mint State" but it can have "Uncirculated Detail" referring to a lack of wear prior to its damage
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Same. Whizzing prevents a coin from getting a numerical grade.
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United States
54282 Posts |
Whizzing is a type of intentional "damage" intended to make the coin look better. Once damaged, it can not be "undamaged".
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It severely damages the coin and, in most cases, will reduce it to way below AU value. For most issues, melt value. For a very rare coin, it would knock an AU or MS coin down to G-6 or VG-8 prices. Personally I'd rather have a clean G6 than a whizzed AU coin.
Edited by fenton
09/10/2021 12:03 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I just mentioned my opinion about this on a different topic the other day. IMO, I feel like if a coin has received any type of abrasive cleaning.polished, whizzed, etc., it should automatically bump it down to AU Details. A coin that has naturally been lightly circulated, has light wear at the high points and broken luster is AU58. So why should a coin with the same end result but was done intentionally "whizzed" "harshly cleaned" be any different? It's still the same end result. A coin should be graded based on its current condition not "well this was mint state until someone went to town with rotary tool". Well that AU58 was also MS before it saw very slight circulation  . That said, that's just my opinion, and I'm probably the minority on the topic. TPG's are more than willing to hand out UNC Details grades for whizzed examples, and I feel, they do so a bit too freely. |
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Canada
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Unc details or AU details may not matter for the actual selling price. A prospective buyer would look at the coin and assess how bad the whizzing was and how much to discount it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Usually they are AU coins whizzed to mimic MS. It puts an artificial chartwheel luster on the surfaces.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with indian gold eagle
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Posted 09/10/2021 05:20 am
