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If say I went into the shop sanded a coin down with the 120 then 240 and 800 to FR-02 and wore it to PO-01 straight so the surface looks natural and there is no sanding marks is this considered cheating? I think so. I am doing an experiment on this and will post pics when I am done.
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So an accelerated weardown vs a few decades authentically traveling the pockets of the economy.
Show us how it goes. Natural wear is pretty tough to imitate, so might be hard to get away with a fake that's not just a damaged coin.
Some people intentionally walk around with a coin for years with the intent of creating a lowball.
Edited by Collects82 09/17/2021 5:54 pm
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I've heard of people using rock tumblers to accelerate the process.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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What a country! 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Would be fun to watch someone apply progressively finer grit around tiny devices--all those nooks, creases, small openings, etc., etc.
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Quote:
I've heard of people using rock tumblers to accelerate the process.
I have tried this and it didn't work. The coin got covered with gouges that completely destroyed it.
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I'd be surprised if that could be done well enough to get a straight grade at a TPG, but I've seen several straight-graded PO-1 clad Ikes in PCGS holders over the years that I wondered how they could have truly achieved that level of wear even after 30 or 40 years as a pocket piece... The oldest member of our coin club recently related the story of how he acquired an uncirculated 1928-S Peace dollar (his birth year) when he was young. He carried it as a pocket piece for decades until it was worn just about smooth. He laughed and said he regretted now not just putting it away as a keepsake when he got it.
Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188
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Quote:The oldest member of our coin club recently related the story of how he acquired an uncirculated 1928-S Peace dollar (his birth year) when he was young. He carried it as a pocket piece for decades until it was worn just about smooth. He laughed and said he regretted now not just putting it away as a keepsake when he got it. To be fair, how many people can say they have a PO-1 1928 S Peace dollar?
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Pillar of the Community
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1980d half, 1964d nickel, 2004p nickel, 2004d unrecognizable date.
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I think the light color gives away it being artificial, however the 1964 might get by if the reverse is as good as the obverse.
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Pillar of the Community
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Oops. Here are the reverses. 
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Quote:To be fair, how many people can say they have a PO-1 1928 S Peace dollar? Yes, indeed 
Member of SPMC, FCCB, ANA and ANS. My U.S. Classic Commemorative Complete Set: https://www.NGCcoin.com/registry/co...sets/278741/My U.S. Fractional Note Set: https://notes.www.collectors-societ...eSetID=34188
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The color will improve. They have been pocketed for 2 days only in that picture.
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They'll probably regain some patina as pocket pieces given time. That's why I never understood lowball collecting. It seems too easy to replicate wear, much easier than restoring original surfaces on a high grade coin.
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Similar to toning, the true question is market acceptability. If the wear and patina isn't right, I would think experience would dictate. Lowballs are tough and tricky to collect! I've found many lowballs but most of them I've rejected due to damage - including "artificial wear".
Edited by BadThad 09/20/2021 8:54 pm
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