Sombrerete Countermarks On An 1820 Chihuahua 8 Reales?

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threefifty Valued Member United States 131 Posts	Posted 09/28/2021 10:26 pm I saw this coin listed in an upcoming auction - please see the link below. Seems a bit unlikely that 1811 Sombrerete countermarks would be applied to a 1820 Chihuahua 8 reales? The only possible explanation I could think of - maybe these countermarks could have been intended to make the Chihuahua piece more acceptable in the vicinity of Sombrerete? Looking through Heritage/Stacks (and about a year's worth of ebay results) I haven't seen these countermarks applied to anything other than the pieces of Sombrerete origin, though I am a novice in War of Independence coinage. Curious to see what you all think. https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...055&lot=2585 Report this Post to the Staff

realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 09/28/2021 11:17 pm They have the order of production wrong. Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 09/29/2021 12:13 am Interesting piece. Searching online auction archives, I only find one other attributed example of a portrait 8R being struck over an earlier Sombrerete piece. https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...8-reales-18- Note that this piece was struck over the Sombrerete raised stamp style, rather than the recessed style like the coin in question. Stack's Ponterio calls the later (poor) portrait strike Durango, but it COULD be Chihuahua. ---------------------- Then this one... not over a Sombrerete host, but instead an MVA 1812 stamp (presumably on a cast Chihuahua 8R). Serves to illustrate Chihuahua struck over a recessed counterstamp: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2708144 Report this Post to the Staff
threefifty Valued Member United States 131 Posts	Posted 09/29/2021 10:26 pm Very interesting, thank you for the info Realeswatcher! I hadn't considered that the Chihuahua details were struck over the Sombrerete recessed stamp. I have been looking at 960 Reis and Bank of England overstruck dollars recently and the details on the host coins are mostly obliterated. But like you suggested, recessed stamps seem to fare better, and maybe the striking pressure was much less since many Chihuahua pieces I have seen are very poorly struck. Report this Post to the Staff
newguy22 Valued Member United States 277 Posts	Posted 10/04/2021 3:31 pm What exactly is a "Durango" 8 reales piece? Were these made during the Mexican War for Independence? Report this Post to the Staff
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