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1884 Indian Head Bites The Dust From Vinegar And Salt Bath - Any Hope Left For It Or Rip?

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Hello,

I was going to sell this 1884 indian head and I noticed some green stuff on it and wanted to clean it off. I figure people wouldn't want to buy a coin with green stuff on it.

So I soaked it in vinegar and salt - took it out

And the surface is whacked out. It had nice details - but now the surface is so jacked up its hard to make out any detail. It lightened the color of the coin - but its too light and spotted with darker areas.

Bottom line is this penny RIP or is there something else I should be trying to revive it ? Thanks!


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 Posted 10/15/2021  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a goner. Lesson learned, I hope.
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Awww man that's too bad.

Usually acetone attacks loose material safely. If it won't come off with acetone then I think it's on the coin forever.
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Don't ever use vinegar and salt for anything other than a Salad . It's very corrosive on some metals .
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 Posted 10/15/2021  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinMan2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks - thats what I figured.

What do you all do about the green stuff that appears on old copper coins?

Do people buy coins with that on it?
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Verdi-care is the best product for removing green corrosion spots, but it is generally not a financially efficient solution for a coin that I imagine this once was!
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You buy some VerdiCare from BadThad.
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 Posted 10/15/2021  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are way better products than Verdicare
to restore bronze , copper , and copper nickel coins
that have surface ( soft ) Verdigris . Hard verdigris,
Forget it , coin ruined no matter what you do .
It is hit and miss as to availability anyways .
The above coin done like the remnants of Thanksgiving dinner .
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Warm soapy water. No good?
Acetone. No good?
Xylene. No Good?
Verdi-Care.

This was the list BadThad posted here on the forum at one time. He is the devloper of verdi-care.

Never use anything that will remove surface metal - it removes value form the coin and is what the hobby calls "cleaning."

Never rub or scrub a coin. It leaves scratch marks and then the coin is considered being cleaned ie. it loses value.

When drying a coin, never rub or wipe. Use a cotton cloth. Yes, even a tissue will scratch the surface. Agin the coin would be classified as cleaned and again lose value.


When rinsing
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I would anonomously drop it in a coin dealer's junk box at a coin show.

Win/win/win 3 ways.
1. The dealer has a vey small incease to his inventory for free, and may make a small profit on it for nil outlay.
2. You have disposed of something you don't need.
3. Another collector could pick up a date space filler for minimum cost.

This sort of 'donation' can be used for disposing of small quantities of low value coins that you don't need. If you have a lot of them, ask the dealer first.
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Yes sel_691 , anyone not wanting their coins , just drop them in my mailbox .
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I have used Verdi-care with great success. I have no experience and thus no opinion to offer on the products in Pacificoin's list.
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A coin is not a potato chip. And the textured surface looks identical. Yikes!
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The OP's coin was never a candidate for restoration. It was corroded beyond repair before his ill-advised treatment.
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