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While there are a multitude of pre Cuds on 1943 P and S, there are only 4 known from 1943-D. I don't know what Denver was doing different, but with the dies striking the harder steel rather than the softer copper, a lot of dies cracked, just seemingly not in Denver. Also of note the nomenclature for these changed a while back from Retained Cud to pre Cud. They used to attributed starting with RCD, but now appear to be coming in as starting with PC. 1943-D Lincoln Wheat cent die event - pre Cud PC-1C-1943D-01    |
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Very nice pick up. Those are harder to find.
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Very nice TB. One observation in your pic. What's going on with the upper horizontal bar of the Mint Mark? It looks very elongated. Maybe a lighting issue, hard to tell.
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What you are seeing is a lighting issue. That said, the coin is a D/D/D (east and split lower serif). It's just so minor I didn't take the time to see if it was a listed variety.  |
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Well.. if it is any consolation, there is not a listed D/D/D for a 1943 that I know of or could find on VV or Coppercoins. Just FYI.
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Interesting. I might have to look into it. Thx.
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Nice example TB.
Could you post an image of the edge to give everyone an idea what to look for on "real" '43 steel cents? Replated ones are so abundant it's nice to see the real deal, so thanks for sharing.
Once an authentic, un-reprocessed steel cent is slabbed for a grade there is no way to see the edge for learning. Some of the re-processing is getting pretty good and I've had some well known and respected members of the hobby hesitate a little but say it looks good to them when I thought the coin I showed them was re-processed.
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10/17/2021 09:47 am
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OKay, but not sure this is best place or coin for this. Pulling a high grade error coin back out of the 2x2 to muck with it taking awkward edge pics is risky. And pics buried here on unrelated thread. Would have been better to pull a few UNCs for edge comparisons in a thread about replates.   Edited by tropicalbats
10/17/2021 12:43 pm
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Very nice! A nice die event/variety combo on a really solid coin.
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Interesting discussion, thanks.
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Thanks a million for those edge shots. They definitely confirmed the original look for steel cents that I was expecting.
(To be clear, I wasn't questioning your coin, I was only looking for verification on other steel cents about what to look for with MS examples. But you are right about any shots that showed the edge finish for any original coin would have worked. I just didn't remember seeing any posted on other threads by anyone and forgot about the search feature. Thanks again. )
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I wonder if the altitude of the Denver Mint has/had anything to do with the dies lasting longer....  TB great to have you back and sharing your finds..  |
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The surface is mint.  The striation lines on the edge are not filled. (something that would have happened if this coin had been reprocessed) Nice Retained Cud. I see a separation on the area next to the rim. (meaning that the collar was still holding the die together. This often happens on the Wheat reverses breakdown of the dies.) Edited by coop
10/19/2021 1:05 pm
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